http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

If you join by 4/19 you will be listed as a founding member. Also you don't have to be military to join, they allow Civilian associate members.

Additionally you can donate to send packages to soldiers to inform them of who the Oath Keepers are and to remind them of their alliance to the Constitution first and foremost.

http://www.ok4troops.com/

OATH KEEPERS: ORDERS WE WILL NOT OBEY

1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.

2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people

3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.

4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.

5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.

6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.

7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.

8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control."

9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.

10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2009/03/03/d....

Also, they are close to becoming the primary sponsor for Ft. Benning's Ranger Competition. If you donate $10 or more you will get a lapel pin:

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/brc/

These sort of activities keep them welcome on military bases and gives them more access to educating our troops about their Oath.

Done. I'd been meaning to do this for about a week.

i got an email saying they have backed out of the Virginia open carry protest march on Monday. Anybody got any news on this?

I got the same e-mail. I don't have any further information on it, but I think there is some discussion on their .Ning pages. I think it was becoming apparent, a couple of the organizers had some more 'radical' views of firearms usage when it came to the government.

Pika: **** THAT. You have to defend our rights re: firearms, because liberals aren't going to. Stand up to these *******s, and if they're misiniformed, tell them so.

Timbo, OK has taken the right stance on this one. We do not promote violence as a means of protest. If you read the principles above, you will note that we desire a participatory relationship with the police and military. An open dialog of the constitution we took an oath to defend and what it should mean to them in their daily life. Confrontation simply puts us vs. them.

I personally am well aware of my 2nd amendment rights and practice them routinely. I also belong to a local open carry organization and we exercise our rights. Members have had several confrontations with LEO's and our position is one of education. We have flyers made specifically for the police community which clearly outline the state laws we are guided by. These can lead to confusing situations where the LEO's have unlawfully disarmed and detained members while trying to figure out how to handle the situation. These situations are never desirable, but with the right approach they do give us an opportunity to educate another LEO on the laws he is sworn to uphold. Confrontational stances ALWAYS end up bad for everyone involved. Should the situation not work as planned, we have a few lawyers ready.

Yes. I agree with Solnow. One or more of the VA rally organizers was saying things that promoted or encouraged violence with firearms. OK cannot be associated with that. I know there were plenty of good people also involved with the VA rally and it is a shame OK had to back out - but they absolutely did the right thing. If they go around being associated with those that promote violence, the media will utterly crucify them. It is bad enough right now that they are being painted as 'paranoid right-wing crazies' - let's not give them any real concrete evidence they could point to and say that OK is promoting gun violence. That'd unravel everything they are doing that is so positive.

I think this is a great idea and seriously considering it but need some input regarding #4: "We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state."

That's the only one I can see having potentially valid reasons (natural disaster, nuclear terrorist attack) for implementation. Otherwise, I'm in.

Any thoughts?

Emergencies, natural disasters, local response to terrorism - all fall under the purview of the National Guard. It has often been held (and rightly so) that states know best how to respond to an emergency in their own area. (Heh...Katrina notwithstanding...)

But that was the problem with Katrina - the feds basically ursurped the governor's control of the National Guard there.

Certainly OK doesn't want to curtail states' rights to respond to local disasters - that is not their intent. I certainly think that disasters of all kinds can be responded to without the declaration of Martial Law - but 'state of emergency' is a very broad term. Unfortunately Bush ****ed that definition all up with the Patriot Act and all its little moving parts.

So, I think the wording here by OK is to try to encompass nullifying those parts of the Patriot Act that are broad and over-reaching.

EDIT: I have found OK to be extremely responsive to questions. They have a 'contact us' form or e-mail listed on their website. You might want to pose your question directly to them. They have multiple very helpful moderators/administrators that will respond to your question quickly.

Thank you, Steph. What you say makes sense, but as they seem to encourage questions I will send that one and will post the results here. Thanks for the tip.

Edit: Just went to the site and sent the question. As soon as they reply I'll post it. Thanks, again.

I saw this posted on a forum, and wondered if it is an actual email sent out yesterday to oathkeepers members? If it isn't or if you feel it is inappropriate to post publicly here, please bilge.




Oath Keepers issued this statement to its members yesterday:

..."so long as Oath Keepers keeps itself to that clearly defined mission,(Reach, Teach, and Inspire) Oath Keepers shall continue to have tremendous effect. We know that we're highly effective with our message because every damned power available to the criminals presently running the Federal government is now being brought to bear on Oath Keepers. The media smear campaign is not simple coincidence. It is being directed by those who desperately need to place our military and peace officer personnel into unlawful activities, some of which are targeting the American people here on our own soil. The single-most glaring barrier to their ability to do that is the Oath Keepers message regarding the Constitution.

I may as well clue y'all into just how desperately the powers that be are targeting Oath Keepers. We now have more than one "leak", in writing, which have come from very high positions inside major Federal agencies. One leak flat out states that the FBI now has marching orders to - and I'm quoting here - conduct "a COINTELPRO-like smear campaign against Oath Keepers". That is not child's play. The FBI is now out to stop Oath Keepers. The order to do that came from above FBI.

And if that's not enough to toast your marshmellow, you'll be overjoyed to know that the BATFE is also now on orders to investigate Oath Keepers. Further, the Department of Homeland Security is focused on a high-intensity investigation of the Board of Directors at Oath Keepers, which includes your humble servant. (I'm not really pleased about that.)

So the Federal powers are now out to squash Oath Keepers and shut down our message and our mission. To do this, "they" (meaning the DHS, State Department, FBI, BATFE and others) are also paying private-sector think tanks to dish their perverted dirt about their misinterpretations of the Oath Keepers mission to the ever-faithful mass media and press. The U.S. military's official newspaper, The Stars And Stripes, just over a week ago came out with an article declaring that the Pentagon is now reviewing its policy regarding military personnel having any involvement in "hate groups". In that same article, there is a paragraph by the Pentagon bragging about the fine job the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is doing in furnishing the Pentagon with profiles on "hate groups" and military personnel who frequent "hate group" websites or meetings etc. The SPLC classifies Oath Keepers as a "hate group" and as an "extremist group" and as an "anti-government group". And they are selling that BS to the Pentagon, DHS, Justice Department, State Department, and who knows where all else. I'm sure we'll all be pleased as punch to reflect on the fact that our own tax dollars are now demonstrably being used to persecute us. But that is just what is happening. We have it in writing.

What that means is that not only DHS, but also the Pentagon is paying the lying bastards at SPLC to make up lies about Oath Keepers.

But it gets worse than that. There is a quote by Cass Sunstein (one of Obama's advisers and now a junior-level Cabinet member) about the tactics available to government for squelching various forms of dissent among the people. That report states candidly that "agents provocateur" and/or private groups who work with the Federal government (such as the ADL and SPLC) are to be used to "infiltrate" groups of dissenting Americans (dissenting meaning that a group or individual disagrees with Federal policy) and create "cognizant dissonance" and "beneficial diversity" of perception within the target group. This is the damned Federal government's response to any and all Americans who would insist that the Federal government honor its own founding legal charter.

Because the Oath Keepers mission is so spotlessly clean and pure in its focus only upon the Constitution for the united States of America, there is nothing to pin on us in any damned legitimate investigation. Therefore, a COINTELPRO-like smear campaign is their only avenue for doing any damage to our organization. SPLC is just on fire to have the Pentagon declare us a "hate group" or any similar title of infamy, and they're willing to indulge themselves in yellow journalism and outright lying in the media to accomplish that goal. So I ask each reader here - do you think anyone could possibly have joined Oath Keepers with a nefarious, clandestine purpose - such as to post materials on our websites which could be used to influence how the Pentagon sees us?

Consider this guy we just exposed for espousing "white supremacy" and "anti-Semitic" beliefs. That sucker was boasting about being a representative of Oath Keepers when the FBI came to his door in Georgia on the night of April 19, and again when he was pulled over by the Tennessee Highway Patrol the next day in Monroe County, Tennessee. He had his vehicle decorated up with Oath Keepers insignia, passed out Oath Keepers materials to the patrolmen who detained him, and then went on radio bragging at how he turned that confrontation into a beneficial outreach action for promoting Oath Keepers to the peace officers at the scene.

I'm sure the Pentagon just loves that one, aren't you? And do you think the SPLC is going to let that one slip by them? Yeah, right. The guy was tied in with Christian Identity, yet he was a self-proclaimed missionary on behalf of Oath Keepers. And for those who don't know about Christian Identity, they are a loosely-affiliated collective of misfits who include Aryan Nation and other cults which are managed (or "handled") by the damned psy-op sector within FBI. You may connect the dots from that much, now that you know that we're being targeted by FBI in a "COINTELPRO-like" smear campaign.

It's real. It's here now, and each of you is a target. Get used to it, and get ready for things to ramp up to yet more uncomfortable degrees. Those detractors who are full of bravado and other forms of pathological ego-mania and who loudly denounce the Board of Directors at Oath Keepers as being "cowards" for stepping over an obvious psy-op trap in pulling out of the Virginia-side open-carry rally this past April 19 - aren't they comprised of two perspectives on reality - one which is so ignorant that they can't figure out the value in a finely-tuned mission which strikes directly into the heart of the Beast, and allow themselves to be unwittingly duped by others who talk that talk for ulterior motives - and those who are paid to bring Oath Keepers down? For those who constitute the latter, who would you suppose they work for? For the former, what value are they to Oath Keepers? Oath Keepers is cleaning house.

So ... be advised. Oath Keepers is not going to be co-opted by any zealous hair-trigger mental cases who try desperately to involve Oath Keepers in whatever new "mission" they deem righteous. Oath Keepers does not take its orders from the membership. And those who attempt to direct Oath Keepers from the ranks shall promptly be booted right out of this organization. Oath Keepers retains legal counsel and shall use it when anyone who is not authorized to represent Oath Keepers acts wrongly as a representative of Oath keepers.

If anyone brings it, we'll boot it. We're not playing social games now. I personally am looking at intense personal threat by Federal powers who need to shut down Oath Keepers, and each member here is now certainly listed for possible targeting. Think on such things, and reflect on your commitment to the Oath. Recall the sacrifices made by so many who've gone before, both in service to this country and those who fought and died to give us this country in freedom. There is something about our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor. Time to think long and hard on just what that means to each one here.

Next item for general house-cleaning here - the Ning system is making some changes, and will no longer be available to groups for free usage. Oath Keepers, meanwhile, after having worked to build a new and superior forum system which Oath Keepers itself will own, is now nearing the end of testing and perfecting, after months of hard work by several of our tech guys, mainly our hard-working young friend, Drew. I know that I've announced this often before, for some months now. But this time, I do believe it's really going to happen.

When we make the move to our new quarters, we are going to lose possibly thousands of members who have been enjoying themselves here on the Ning system without paying dues to be official members. Those of you who transfer to the new quarters with us will be required to pay dues. Those who decline to pay dues will no longer have access to our forum activities and will not be counted as members. There are only a very few exceptions which Oath Keepers may make, and those will come through each respective State Chapter's President in a direct appeal to the Board. Odds on anyone being an exception are very poor.

Further, State Chapter officers are going to have to be vetted and must submit to, and pay for, a background check which will be administered via Chauncey Normandin, member of the Board of Directors and State Chapter President for the Florida Chapter. Persons applying for officer status in the Montana Chapter may contact me if you don't know how to reach Chauncey, and I'll connect you up. (In Arkansas contact David Helms) I think the background check costs forty dollars per individual applicant. It is a one-time only fee which is charged to Oath Keepers by the professional background check company who has agreed to provide this service for us. All State Chapter-level officers, President, Vice President, Secretary, and Treasurer, must go through this process of vetting prior to being assigned their post.

The Ning system we are presently using will be frozen and all posting will come to a halt. We are not decided on what to do with it beyond freezing, at this time, but may consider erasing the whole thing or leaving it here for readers. Whatever we decide about that, the point you need to know is that the site will at the very least be frozen, probably in less than a week from now. Therefore, if there is content from this site anyone wants to retain, time is short - begin to save as you wish now. If members here wish to transfer to the new site, each member will need to pay dues.

The operation at the new site will be somewhat different from what we've allowed here on Ning. There have been many conversations which are not on-mission but which have been permitted. That shall cease when we make our move. We don't want to talk about Obama's birth certificate, or Obama this or Obama that. We don't want to talk about H1N1 flu vaccines. We don't want to talk about illegal immigration. We don't want to talk about a lot of things which should be obvious to all Americans. We want to talk about Oath Keepers, our mission, and ways to facilitate our mission. We want serious members who understand our mission, who appreciate the genius in that mission, who are willing to work within the by-laws and operating standards which Oath Keepers specifies. Time is short, the mission is critical, the seriousness level is now very high.

I want to thank each Patriot who is willing to work with us, who will move forward into the new forums and help Oath Keepers carry out the mission.

Some of you may realize that you don't want all the Federal heat which is now coming down on Oath Keepers. That is perfectly understandable. There are many other venues where you can be active in very honorable patriotic ways. The battle to save America has many theaters of action, on many levels, and each of us is needed where each of us feels most comfortable. Oath Keepers appreciates each of you.

Alright - enough for the moment. More shortly. Thank you for reading."

Salute!

Elias
(OK Board of Directors)

This is not legit. Please notify the poster on the other board.

Steph..please correct me if I'm wrong. I did not receive an email and can not find any postings in the forums or national site.

By the way, I never did hear back regarding my question about #4:"We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a state of emergency on a state."

Who did you contact?

As for the post by Charlotte - I have not seen that anywhere, nor did I receive any e-mail like that.

I just heard back from an individual Oathkeeper who had not received this either (he is not in Oklahoma), and he is inquiring of the Board of Directors as to its validity. If/when I hear something back I'll post it here.


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**Addition, while typing this I heard back from a member in Montanta whose relative is a Sgt at Arms with a State chapter (he didn't specify which state) and that Sgt at Arms is confirming the validity of this email.

Just heard from a Texas oathkeeper: It is being disseminated as quickly as the state chapter heads can get around to it. I received this yesterday through the Texas chapter.

These emails typically come from OK, not from the state chapter heads. I still think its bull****, but I'll keep my eyes open.

Steph - there's a "contact us" form on their website and I used that.

I hope you are downloading all their videos from their YouTube channel. They are excellent.

I'm having headaches with their new Forum since they transferred from their previous Ning site.

Quote:

gainst all enemies, foreign and domestic

Yup I see why they're worried. Doesn't Nancy Pelosi label us as terrorist? Good thing for her the Patriot Act is on her side.