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User Info Where's the Note? SEIU INTERNET ATTACK ON TBTF in forum [Foreclosuregate]
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Mission statement:

http://action.seiu.org/page/speakout/whe....

Hey fascists--meet the internet.
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Thanks Bicycle,


I'm thinking it be a good idea to edit the first link's letter (which should be sent certified) to include a deadline for a response, and the 15 U.S.C. §1641(f)(2) citation that wiccapundit detailed in his posts:

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?single....

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?single....

One of the comments from ZH:

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But DO NOT use your real name and address on this website, put in bogus info then copy and paste the "Preview" into a WordProc and make the name/address changes, print, and mail yourself.

Oh and don't forget to spell check and proof read it, there is an incorrect word in there, no sense in sounding like an idiot.


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Huffington Post has picked it up:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/12....

This, perhaps more than anything else in the short history of the internet, needs to go viral.
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heres the note it auto generates:

To whom it may concern:

I own the property at the address listed above, and your bank services my mortgage.

Over the last several weeks there have been many stories documenting the problem that banks are foreclosing on homes without proof that they own the loan. I have learned that in many cases, banks like yours do not even know who owns the loans you service. Employees at several leading banks have admitted to rubber stamping tens of thousands of foreclosures every month, without even checking to make sure that the bank had a legal right to proceed with foreclosure. In some cases, banks allegedly falsified mortgage documents to cover up their mistakes. There have been reports of two banks trying to foreclose on the same home, banks foreclosing on homeowners who were current on their payments, and even of a bank foreclosing on a home where the homeowner had never taken out a mortgage to begin with. This is not merely a "technical problem"--it is the difference between having a warm bed at night and being out on the street.

As a homeowner and a customer of your bank, I am horrified. I had always believed that it I played by the rules, I would be protected, but now I know that banks like yours think the rules don't apply to them.

To protect myself and my family, I need to know who owns my mortgage. Within thirty days, I would like to know the name, address, and phone number of the bank or investor that owns my mortgage. Furthermore, in light of the recent allegations of foreclosure fraud, I demand to see the original mortgage note proving ownership over my home loan. If you fail to produce a mortgage note proving that you have a right to collect my mortgage payments, I will be forced to consider all options available to me to ensure that my family and my home are protected.

I ask that I receive my response in writing.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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Shouldn't they also demand to see the complete chain of ownership from 1st to last?
At the very least, this should create a ****ing personnel nightmare for the banks.
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Interesting

I wonder what they are going to do when they find out that their own pension hold it.

I guess they could tell people that if they walk away they lose their pension

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I wonder what they are going to do when they find out that their own pension hold it.


You mean the pension was sold it and lied to about who holds it.

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Yep... you can bet SEIU has their own lawyers and understands this... they are going for the banks jugular
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Obama gonna pay for my house. every communist dream come true, destruction of the notion of property rights. be careful what you wish for...
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No, Obama is not going to pay for your mortgage. They are trying to hold the banks feet to the fire on the securities in their pension funds.
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Dumb question: are mortgages owned by FNM and FRE part of this, or are they uniquely owned by the pseudo-GSEs?

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Yes, Fannie and Freddie are ABSOLUTELY part of it.

We know this because of the FCIC hearings where their regulator said THEY HAVE HAD TO SUBPOENA FOR FILES because the banks are stiff-arming them (for files THEY SHOULD ALREADY ****ING HAVE!)

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What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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I'm hesitant to add my name and info to a union website. God knows what they will do with the information and I have no way to know if they are even forwarding it to my lender or not. Could be a scam for all I know. Their site isn't even https...

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I have no way to know if they are even forwarding it to my lender or not..


I thought the same - what if it was just a way to tip off the lenders of potential "troublemakers"?

The letter should be sent certified, anyway. Copy their boilerplate, customize accordingly.

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I think SEIU has it ASS backwards. They are rallying their troops (and others) to essentially see if the enquirer has recourse to a "free home."

Why aren't they saying "OUR PENSION FUNDSS ARE BEING EATEN ALIVE BY THIS FRAUD!"?
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This is the SEIU, inventors of the phrase "Muscle for Money" (look it up).

This is more of the same. They are pushing this in order to get a payoff for stopping it. That payoff is going to be a full taxpayer bailout of their bloated, unsustainable pensions.

This game has been played so many times by now it's cliche.

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Man I hope people aren't giving their information to SEIU which is riddled with corruption, money laundering, and fraud - no better than the banks. There are better ways to request docs...

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