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User Info Ok, why the **** is nobody interested in this script?!?!? in forum [FX]
Asimov
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Ok, I have a question. Why the hell is nobody interested in this script?

It's a EUR/USD specific gestalt.

It'll definitely whipsaw you from time to time, but I think you'll agree they are rather minimal compared to the gains.

On the chart below, if you sold on the first candle that gestalt starts on that chart (55 candles in, because of the length of the moving average) and then reverse the trade every time it changes candle color at the close of the 4hr bar, your results are:

+1326
-17
-24
-6
-89
+692
+158
-67
-26
+1017

(A whipsaw happened today that isn't shown in this image for a loss of 147 pips.)

Including the whipsaw not shown, that's a grand total of +2817 pips of gain since 13:00 est on 4/16.

And here's the chart described above:



Here is the 3d5m chart, but I'm not going to do all the math on it. It should be pretty obvious just from the chart that the wins outweigh the whipsaws considerably.



Here's the 10 year weekly chart. Again, not doing the numbers, the chart is pretty damn obvious on it's own.



Here's the 5 year daily. Again, the chart says it all. Some whipsaws sure, but the thousands upon thousands of pips of gains far outweigh the few hundred pips of loss.



And finally, for the true scalpers... a 1d1m chart.



Can somebody please explain why not a SINGLE PERSON has shown interest in this script? PLEASE. Because I don't understand.

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Drench
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I think it's interesting, but stop-and-go traffic makes me feel like I'm gonna puke. I can't imagine what being on the currency roller coaster would do to me. Then again, we all are anyway, I suppose.
Zenthunder
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nobody but me is crazy enough to trade fx and I dont use TOS...

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Fatso
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Asimov, you need to be working on Wall St. programming HFT machines. It appears there are no more actual humans trading FX, hence no demand for your script.
Asimov
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Fatso: It appears to me that a HUMAN can******the **** out of the HFT machines - at least if those charts are any example. Obviously for the last 10 years you could have.

I guess that could change at any time, but the record shown above is incredible as hell - and if saying it myself is egotistical, so be it.

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Mrgone
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What script? I see no script.

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Asimov
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Mrgone: The line on the charts above that changes the candle color from red to green when you should buy/sell.

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Asimov
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For a bit more detail....

It's one I request a donation for. That took a long time to write and it is specific for only the eur/usd cross. I also have one written for aud/jpy but no others.

Considering that it takes a couple hours to write and error check for each cross, I haven't written any others but will upon request - and donation. I'm sorry that I need to ask for a donation, but I feel like I deserve something for the time I have to put into it. Not to mention the amount of money you can quite easily make using it.

I write and release many many scripts for free, you need only look at my chicken scratch scripting thread in the TOS subforum to see that. Some, however.... Well. The extra money from donations helps. I also don't ask for any specific amount because I don't want to price anybody out. Even a small donation is acceptable.

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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.
If you trade based on what other people say, you will lose money. Especially what I say. I won't be held responsible. Festina lente.
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Quote:
Fatso: It appears to me that a HUMAN can******the **** out of the HFT machines


They did in Finland and went to jail, I think. :-0
Asimov
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Yea, but there's nothing illegal about this. :)

All I'm doing is drawing a line on a chart....

I hope there isn't anyway....

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Reason:
Pikachu
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if it works so good why the **** are u posting it on a public forum ? why aint u keeping your mouth shut and abusing the hell out of it and making $$$ out of ur ass ?

i will leave it to each reader to answer those questions
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curious Asi... do you find there is a significant difference between backtested performance and trading these things in practice?

<== not a TOS user or active trader
Asimov
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Wageslave: It's always harder to trade a script than to backtest it. Always.

If you want an example, I was trying to trade eur/usd back in early september, but kept getting scared out and finally just quit trying. If I'd just stuck to my guns and actually done what the script said to do, I'd have >1000 pips of gain right now.

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Pikachu: There are some scripts that I won't make public. This one cannot be manipulated by the "big boys" so I don't mind sharing. The only way to manipulate this one is to be able to manipulate MANY different MAJOR crosses in the $4T/day FX market. Some scripts depend on things that CAN be easily manipulated by the big boys, therefore those I will not make them public.

If you want another reason. I simply don't have the money to play in FX space. If I did, I wouldn't be asking for donations for this one, I'd be giving it away free.

It almost looks like you're implying that I faked the charts. I hope that assumption is incorrect, but I'll leave it to each reader to answer that question.

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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.
If you trade based on what other people say, you will lose money. Especially what I say. I won't be held responsible. Festina lente.
Asimov
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Here's a current 5m chart. My photoshop skills must be really good.
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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.
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Asimov
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Oops, sorry, that was with a 34 period. Here's the 55 period 5m chart.
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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.
If you trade based on what other people say, you will lose money. Especially what I say. I won't be held responsible. Festina lente.
Mrgone
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Asi, I did understand that the pic showed a script, you said "why the **** is nobody interested in this script." I didn't see one. I see from other posts that you request a donation for this. What's the donation? Does it work well with non-FX data or is it primarily FX?

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Asimov
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Mrgone: I'm sorry, I thought you were joking in your first post, so I replied in the same vein. Then I had second thoughts and realized you might have been serious, so I posted the second bit. Here's some more info:

There is a family of gestalt scripts. One is a general script that works decently with any security that tends to correlate with the broader market. The FX gestalts are for one specific cross only. (I can write them for any cross.)

The one displayed above is for eur/usd only. It won't work good on anything else (though it might do ok on /DX because euro is >50% of the weighting, but I wouldn't use it for that.)

The donation is up to you. I don't set a price for a couple of reasons, mainly because I don't want to price anybody out, I know what it's like to not have much money or to try to trade an account with minimal funds. Secondly, I guess it's to ease my conscious a bit in that I can't feel like I'm ripping somebody off when they set the price. If you send a small donation and later feel it was worth much more, of course you're free to send more - I certainly wouldn't complain. :)

Here's the normal text I send to everybody:

Just drop me an email on TF for my email and paypal address.

When you send the paypal DON'T use the "payment owed" feature, paypal sent me a nasty letter saying I was breaking their terms of service by allowing this to avoid the fees.

Please include your TF username when you send an email (well, the first one anyway) so I can keep everything straight. Thanks!

I'll need a real email address for you so I can send it as an attachment. I've had issues with both html and email formatting messing them up and would rather avoid the issue. It's plain text, you can open it in notepad if you wish, or you can go to studies and hit the "import" button on the lower left and point it at the file.

It will be written into your user preferences.ini file. Once imported TOS won't look at the .TS file again, so you can move it wherever to store incase of hard drive failure or a mutilated .ini file (it happens sometimes.) If by some chance you need another copy, just drop me an email. I keep records so I can send out any updates if they occur anyway.

There may or may not be a .txt file with an explanation and/or hints and tips attached as well. Whether there is or not, you should be sure to read the comments at the top of the script itself.

I ask two things, 1) don't share it around, and 2) if you make gobs of money with it, keep me in mind.

If you prefer something other than paypal, that's fine too, I'll email the script as soon as I get your email address and we can work something out.

That's pretty much it. :)

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If you trade based on what other people say, you will lose money. Especially what I say. I won't be held responsible. Festina lente.
Mrgone
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I'm interested but mostly stay away from FX. Way too scary for me. In fact, most of the market is too scary for me. However, this looks interesting, even from a technical viewpoint. Can this be tweaked for /es? Is it fairly straight forward to modify the code for other symbols? I'll be honest, I don't have a lot of spare change these days (kids/college) and I don't even trade much anymore in this market but I do find it intriguing. I have one or two of your other public scripts and also found them interesting, although I have actually traded with any.

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Like I said, there is a gestalt for anything that correlates generally to the broader market. It works pretty good with /ES.

Here's a screenshot of a window I track it on /ES with 5, 10, 20 and 1hr charts (It doesn't work good >1hr because it looses the fine detail from the internals. It also doesn't work as good afterhours because about 1/2 of what it looks at is trading hours only.)

Jink is also shown on these charts (the histogram and red/green arrows)

The candles are colored based on gestalt though, green is when it's on a buy, red is when it's on a sell.

I also use it on my 1m chart.

[Edit: As you can see, it whipsaws more than the eur/usd gestalt does, but it's still quite useful, especially if you use the longer aggregation periods to identify the trend and then trade the shorter aggregation periods in the direction of the trend.]
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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.
If you trade based on what other people say, you will lose money. Especially what I say. I won't be held responsible. Festina lente.

Laswyguy
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dude.. if you could provide an audited real time with results for your black box.. you could easily sell it. ie.. it needs to work, and work good.

Active Trader Mag and Commodity Trader Mag. Look into those. They have rankings for trading systems.


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or give away your black box, sponsor a trader, who WOULD keep perfect records, audited then start reporting your results. ie.. if your **** is good.. money will find you.

http://www.automatedtrader.net/Algoworld....

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positive alpha - bitches!

Asimov
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Thank you for the advice. I'll look into it.

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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.
If you trade based on what other people say, you will lose money. Especially what I say. I won't be held responsible. Festina lente.
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ok pretty damn good ****

however like any indicator it is lagging (very ****ing little)

disclosure

yes i'm using it along with HWB
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might

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