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The minimum required insurance in Florida is $10,000 in liability coverage. It's meaningless, never mind that the illegal aliens drive all the time with neither insurance OR a license.

There will always be those that break the law, which is why laws need an "or else" with teeth. Does this mean we depend on personal responsibility for everything?

Previous points made about the licensing are valid and I'm not claiming to know the best solution, but to just let there be a free-for-all on public roads - is that really the consensus on a best solution? What happens when things go awry on the public roads - then what? What recourse do I have for someone that did not act responsibly and then caused the death of someone I love on a public road?

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Federationists must respect personal autonomy and refuse to force others to pay for personal choice, irrespective of whether that choice was a positive one (e.g. the decision to use drugs or overeat) or a negative one (the choice to not buy medical insurance.)

should there be a "not" in there?

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the decision to use not drugs or overeat

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There will always be those that break the law, which is why laws need an "or else" with teeth. Does this mean we depend on personal responsibility for everything?

Previous points made about the licensing are valid and I'm not claiming to know the best solution, but to just let there be a free-for-all on public roads - is that really the consensus on a best solution? What happens when things go awry on the public roads - then what? What recourse do I have for someone that did not act responsibly and then caused the death of someone I love on a public road?

The same recourse you have now - you can sue them.

Again, $10,000 is the required minimum insurance. It is not much higher anywhere else.

Licensing DOES NOT guarantee competence or financial responsibility beyond a de-minimus amount.

What your (and others in this vein) shows is the desire to get something that's not possible, and when you can't get it, then the claw for "whatever we can do to make us all THINK we're safer, even if we're not" games begins.

If you do harm to another person you should be fully civilly and, if there's cause for it, criminally liable. Licensing does EXACTLY NOTHING to change the underlying realities in this regard.

I disagree... I think licensing does make a difference to those that have regard for the law. It is those that don't have regard for the law that are the problem and either way, licensing or not, you have that problem.

So with licensing you remove some of the danger from those with respect for the law. The rest you have to deal with no matter what.

How about verdana?

1. Henceforth, all branches of government (executive, legislative, judicial) shall shed 50% of all "support staff."

2. All branches will (a)not be immune to laws that must be followed by The People under any circumstance; (b) all salaries for elected officials, political appointees will be reduced by 75% (c) any health benefit plan or retirement plan or any other "benefit plan" must be 95% funded by themselves.

3. Rank and file government employees are exempt from items "B" and "C" above until a proper study can formulate an equivalent, contributory system based on salary, years of service and other criterior as it directly relates to their functions (i.e. - a clerk at GSA or any federal agency making $30,000 should not have their salary cut by 75% and contributions should be reasonable as private sector employment).

4. ALL Corporations selling goods and services in the United States of America to people of the United States of America and abroad must employ 90% of its employees in the United States of America and those employees must be citizens of the United States of America

4(b). Any corporation not in compliance of the above will be assessed at a 150% tariff and will be deemed a foreign corporation.

I realize our labor laws and tax laws here must be revised and scrapped altogether in some instances. However, our economy will never recover without changing the game on our end. I have more to contribute but many TF'ers adequately articulated them - - especially with the Second Amendment.