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You mean about his funding of them? Is there any public trail? He does it through shadow groups, same as the way the Ford Foundation funds All-Jazeera through multiple hand offs.
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As long as we are bored.



But it's all bull****, got it.

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Oh, Hilary's saying the same thing. I'm sure she's just kidding, you know. They don't put those people there in the CFR who have exclusive access to the administration when you and I don't, right?

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Remember who is the CFR's chairman?
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Rockefeller is Trilateral and CFR ... By the way, I have learned some very, very interesting things regarding the Illuminati wars ... remind me to tell you all about that some day.

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I know how the funding works.

Where do you think the trillion dollar drop in money market accounts in one day, siphoned out of the US into Europe is derived from? It happened in early September 2008, as the House voted against the TARP and Paulson was threatening Martial Law if the House didn't approve for TARP. It was the beginning of the second week in September, IIRC.

You are preaching to the choir.

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Bohemian , why dont you go ahead & tell us all about the illuminati wars ...
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Tyler, as you know - the Kennedy's were one casualty (albeit another case of plausible deniability).

The Illuminati are dark/light/white/black ... there are two controlling sides of this pyramid seen ... the global chess game has been going on forever, since before the day's when Christ turned over the money changers tables at the temple. Most of the assassinations (some high level officials) are on TF in one way or the other. The Rockefeller-controlled CFR and Trilaterals/Bilderbergs (and British royalty) against old school $$ for the end-game we are currently in. There are 13 families all over the world. It's deeper than that, of course, but you get the picture. Just trace the bloodlines - the names I've listed.

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From Zerohedge:

Mike Krieger On The "High End" Bubble

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...First, we all know about the bifurcation in the haves and have-nots in the West. The funny thing is that when you hear Wall Street talking heads speak to this they act as if they just discovered electricity. Sorry guys, this has been going on for decades. The only thing that has happened is that the super, super rich (0.1% of the country) and their puppets in D.C. neglected to use their positions of power during the 2008 crisis to help their country and their fellow citizen get back on their feet and reform the system, but rather they decided to totally raid, abuse and pillage their fellow Americans in an act of unprecedented greed and recklessness. What the “analysts” fail to see is that these “elites” have played their hand way too far. The social crisis facing the country as a result of the most egregious plundering in modern American history will spell the end of the “high end” theme. Buying into this trend now is like getting long Marie Antoinette’s unsevered head in 1792.

Moreover, in the BRICS (China in particular) this bifurcation has also exploded in recent years and with inflation spiraling higher we have a cauldron for social unrest and revolution. The haves have already taken everything from the have-nots. When that happens you don’t buy high end retail stocks, you get long guillotines (to be clear I do not condone violence WHATSOEVER, I am merely calling the situation as I see it). Just read this article from Bloomberg this morning to get an idea of how close we are to a total social implosion. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-21.... Key quote from the article: “Consumers, particularly in the lower-income end, are being forced to use their credit cards for everyday spending like gas and food, said Tavares, who’s based in Atlanta. That’s because there’s been no other positive catalyst, like an increase in wages, to offset higher prices. It’s a cash-flow problem.” and… “The swings in purchases of fuel and food have been “dramatic,” Tavares said. The volume of gasoline purchases placed on credit cards jumped 39 percent last month from a year earlier, compared with a 21 percent increase in June 2010, he said. Food shopping increased 5 percent after falling 7 percent last year.” Serfs up!...


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Partying down with the Rothschilds:

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“… On 12 December 1972, Marie-Hélène gave her Surrealist Ball at Ferriéres. This time the guests were asked to come in black tie and long dresses with Surrealist heads. The invitation was printed with reversed writing on a blue and cloudy sky, inspired by a painting by Magritte. To decipher the card, it had to be held to a mirror.

For the evening the chateau was floodlit with moving orange lights to give the impression that it was on fire. The staircase inside was lined by footmen dressed as cats that appeared to have fallen asleep in a variety of staged poses.

Guests had to pass throught a kind of labyrinth of Hell, made of black ribbons to look like cobwebs. The occasional cat appeared to rescue the guests and lead them to the tapestry salon. Here they were greeted by Guy with a hat to resemble a still-life on a platter, and by Marie-Hélène wearing the head of a giant weeping tears made of diamonds.

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It is not possible to repeat such things now for many reasons. But it is fascinating to look back and to remember these occasions, which dominated our thoughts and plans to such an extent for so many months. I am happy that I took part in so many, and happy that I gave some myself.”
-Baron Alexis de Redé


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Famous Quotes about Government & Banking Control and the New World Order
The following is a four page list of quotes by famous individuals that reflect their knowledge of Government, Banking, Military, and Media control - or otherwise known as the "New World Order."


"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson."
- U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a letter written Nov. 21, 1933 to Colonel E. Mandell House


“If congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given them to use themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations.”
- Andrew Jackson


“The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity.”
- Abraham Lincoln


We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans."
- Bill Clinton, USA Today on 3/11/93, page 2a


“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
- Henry Ford

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."
- Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference in Evians, France, 1991

"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining super capitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."
- Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets


“Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
- David Rockefeller, Memoirs, page 405

"It is the system of nationalist individualism that has to go....We are living in the end of the sovereign states....In the great struggle to evoke a Westernized World Socialism, contemporary governments may vanish....Countless people...will hate the new world order....and will die protesting against it." - H.G. Wells, in his book, “The New World Order”, 1940


“Bankers own the earth; take it away from them but leave them with the power to create credit; and, with a flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again... If you want to be slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the bankers control money and control credit.”
- Sir Josiah Stamp, Director, Bank of England, 1940.


"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."
- David Rockefeller

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years... It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."

- David Rockefeller, Bilderberg Meeting, June 1991 Baden, Germany

"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependent on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from that class." - Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

“Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws."
- Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

“I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war.” –
Abraham Lincoln - In a letter written to William Elkin

"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."
- Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, Time Magazine, July 20th, 1992

“The money power preys on the nation in times of peace, and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces, as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes.” - Abraham Lincoln


“A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the Nation and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world - no longer a Government of free opinion no longer a Government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men.... Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” –
Woodrow Wilson - In The New Freedom (1913)

“The fact is that there is a serious danger of this country becoming a Pluto-democracy; that is, a sham republic with the real government in the hands of a small clique of enormously wealthy men, who speak through their money, and whose influence, even today, radiates to every corner of the United States.” - William McAdoo - President Wilson's national campaign vice-chairman, wrote in Crowded Years

“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” - Thomas Jefferson


“The system of banking [is] a blot left in all our Constitutions, which, if not covered, will end in their destruction... I sincerely believe that banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity... is but swindling futurity on a large scale.”
- Thomas Jefferson


“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocracy that has set the Government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs.”
- Thomas Jefferson


“... To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition. The incorporation of a bank, and the powers assumed by this bill [chartering the first Bank of the United States], have not, been delegated to the United States by the Constitution.”
- Thomas Jefferson - in opposition to the chartering of the first Bank of the United States (1791).


“We have stricken the (slave) shackles from four million human beings and brought all laborers to a common level not so much by the elevation of former slaves as by practically reducing the whole working population, white and black, to a condition of serfdom. While boasting of our noble deeds, we are careful to conceal the ugly fact that by an iniquitous money system we have nationalized a system of oppression which, though more refined, is not less cruel than the old system of chattel slavery.”
- Horace Greeley - (1811-1872) founder of the New York Tribune


“When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.”
- Frederic Bastiat - (1801-1850) in Economic Sophisms


“The powers of financial capitalism had (a) far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland; a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.”
- Prof. Carroll Quigley in Tragedy and Hope


“In a small Swiss city sits an international organization so obscure and secretive....Control of the institution, the Bank for International Settlements, lies with some of the world's most powerful and least visible men: the heads of 32 central banks, officials able to shift billions of dollars and alter the course of economies at the stroke of a pen.”
- Keith Bradsher of the New York Times, August 5, 1995


“The Federal Reserve Bank of New York is eager to enter into close relationship with the Bank for International Settlements....The conclusion is impossible to escape that the State and Treasury Departments are willing to pool the banking system of Europe and America, setting up a world financial power independent of and above the Government of the United States....The United States under present conditions will be transformed from the most active of manufacturing nations into a consuming and importing nation with a balance of trade against it.”
- Rep. Louis McFadden - Chairman of the House Committee on

Banking and Currency quoted in the New York Times (June 1930)

“Nothing did more to spur the boom in stocks than the decision made by the New York Federal Reserve bank, in the spring of 1927, to cut the rediscount rate. Benjamin Strong, Governor of the bank, was chief advocate of this unwise measure, which was taken largely at the behest of Montagu Norman of the Bank of England....At the time of the Banks action I warned of its consequences....I felt that sooner or later the market had to break.”
- Money baron Bernard Baruch in Baruch: The Public Years (1960)


“The Federal Reserve Bank is nothing but a banking fraud and an unlawful crime against civilization. Why? Because they "create" the money made out of nothing, and our Uncle Sap Government issues their "Federal Reserve Notes" and stamps our Government approval with NO obligation whatever from these Federal Reserve Banks, Individual Banks or National Banks, etc.”
- H.L. Birum, Sr., American Mercury, August 1957, p. 43


“[The] abandonment of the gold standard made it possible for the welfare statists to use the banking system as a means to an unlimited expansion of credit.... In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. If there were, the government would have to make its holdings illegal, as was done in the case of gold.... The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves.... [This] is the shabby secret of the welfare statist's tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the 'hidden' confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights.”
- Alan Greenspan in an article he wrote in 1966.

“History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance.” – James Madison

http://www.amtruth.com/NWOquotes2

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IKEA founder 'was Nazi recruiter'

IKEA's billionaire founder Ingvar Kamprad was a member of the Swedish Nazi party and was such a concern to secret service they opened a file on him, according to a new book.

By Richard Orange, Malmö
5:56PM BST 24 Aug 2011

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The 1943 file, revealed in a book published on Wednesday by Swedish journalist Elisabeth Åsbrink, will revive the long-standing controversy over the far right sympathies of the 85-year-old businessman.

It proves for the first time that Mr Kamprad was an active member of Svensk Socialistisk Samling – the successor to the Swedish Nationalist Socialist Workers Party – even detailing his membership number, 4013.

It quotes letters intercepted from Mr Kamprad, then 17, in which he enthuses about recruiting new members and says that he "misses no opportunity to work for the movement".

The secret service concluded that, as Mr Kamprad received the party's youth newspaper, he must have held "some sort of official position within the organisation".

Ms Åsbrink accused Mr Kamprad of failing to come clean about the full extent of his Nazi past....


More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopi....

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Kaiser couple to marry in Potsdam
Published: 26 Aug 11 07:07 CET

Germany’s high society event of the year is set for Saturday as the great-great grandson of Kaiser Wilhem II gets married at a royal palace in Potsdam.

The 35-year-old Georg Friedrich, Prince of Prussia, and his aristocratic bride, 33-year-old Sophie, Princess of Isenburg, will make their vows in the Church of Peace on the grounds of the Sanssouci Palace. Their 700 guests will include members of leading German and European noble families.

The couple already tied the knot in a civil ceremony at the Potsdam town hall on Thursday.

German broadcaster RBB will provide three hours of live coverage on television, and approximately 100 journalists will be on site to cover what would be Germany’s own royal wedding - if the country still had a monarchy.

Although the pair is not in line for the throne like Britain's William and Kate, Prince Georg Friedrich would be kaiser had his great-great grandfather not been forced to abdicate in the wake of World War I. The representatives of European royalty set to attend the nuptials in Potsdam are fittingly modest.

“There will be no Queen, no Kate and no Letizia,” said Michaela Blankart, a manager of the affairs of the former Prussian royal family.

“The other prominent families will send representatives, though. That just belongs to the occasion,” said the German aristocracy expert Rolf Seelmann-Eggebert.

Considered reserved and down to earth, Germany’s kaiser couple leads a relatively bourgeois existence: both are business managers and work at companies in Berlin and Rostock.

Despite the media attention, “the wedding is still a private event,” Blankart said.

But since the Prussian descendant is related to all major European aristocratic families and also the Hohenzollern dynasty – celebrating its 950th anniversary this year – there are certain obligations. The wedding is, therefore, a milestone for the couple and, at the same time, "a promise to the future of building Prussia," said the Royal House of Hohenzollern in Sigmaringen, home to southern Germany’s Swabian noble family.

Hence, the ceremony will not occur at Castle Birstein in the bride’s home state Hesse, rather in the former royal residence city of Potsdam, where the Hohenzollern dynasty’s historical extravagance is still on display.

Potsdam Mayor Jann Jakobs, who along with Brandenburg state premier Matthias Platzeck, is on the guest list, is pleased with the choice: “Georg Friedrich, Prince of Prussia, is a self-confessed Potsdam fan. Thus, it’s a special pleasure that he selected this city as the site for his wedding.”

Blue-blood watcher Seelmann-Eggebert also assumes the couple is making a statement with their location of choice, the former seat of the Hohezollern family.

Fitting transportation has also been arranged. The bride will be driven to the church in a grey Rolls-Royce.

“The car is from a friend of the prince and comes from Sweden,” explained Hohenzollern-spokeswoman Blankart.

After the ceremony, the couple will be driven in a midnight-blue Landau carriage through Potsdam and Park Sanssouci, as long as the weather is good.

“In case of bad weather, we’ll take the Rolls-Royce,” said Matthias Zeckert from the event agency German Arts.

The newlyweds will be driven past wine terraces and bubbling Rococo fountains to the new chambers, where the 700-guest reception will take place. In the evening, there will be a gala dinner in the Orangerie with around 370 guests. The china table settings will be "Bleu Morant," manufactured by the Royal Porcelain Factory in Berlin.

On the evening before the wedding, the nobility and celebrities will meet in Berlin at the Gendarmenmarkt concert hall, where a charity concert to benefit the Princess Kira of Prussia Foundation is planned.

The wedding will crown the long relationship between the prince and his bride. The Hohenzollern descendant and the Princess of Hesse have known each other since childhood....

http://www.thelocal.de/society/20110826-....

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BMW admits Nazi legacy
22 September 2011
Financial Times Deutschland, 22 September 2011

It is one of the powerful dynasties of German entrepreneurs who owe part of their fortune to the Nazi regime, but the Quandt family, owners of automobile firm BMW, has always been discrete about this period, unlike other companies such as Deutsche Bank, Allianz or Volkswagen. Today, the heirs of the automobile manufacturer are "confronting their past," says the Financial Times Deutschland. They are doing it "late, too late, but in a substantial manner," the financial daily adds. A recent study shows that the Quandt enterprises, a major arms supplier to Adolf Hitler, participated in the aryanisation of the population [extermination and despoilment of Jews], and employed over 50,000 people as forced labour, thousands of whom came from concentration camps. In 2007, following the broadcast of a television documentary criticising the role of the clan under the Nazi regime, the Quandt family appointed a historian to undertake a study and was accorded access to the family archives, which are now public.

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Our global 'elite' :
those that cripple entire economies, who cause large-scale famine (a current example : skyrocketing rice prices in Asia), who are the cause of untold amounts of bloodshed on battlefields, and countless tragedies in the families of the fallen soldiers are the same FEW families who are, ever more visibly, "ruling the world".
It really should not come as too much of a surprise, these abominations upon mankind being the core of their professional life, that their private life, and the SOURCE of their diabolic acts is SATANISM.
That is why lloyd blankfein (or whatever the Goldman Sachs top worm's name is)
can step in front of cameras and say with a straight face "we are doing God's work". -- because he really is performing HIS GOD'S work -namely - Satan's work (being the destruction of all that is good and benevolent in the world)
The reality and existence of "Satan" is debatable of course, but that does not matter to those who deeply believe in "him". That is why he means it when he says, in front of the entire world, that he feels they are doing Gods work.


Here's a couple youtube videos to check out and evaluate for yourself whether these are mere claims from wackos.
(i don't know how to embed these videos, perhaps someone more skilled can help out here :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBHbJzpro....
Ted Gunderson, former chief of FBI Los Angeles )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY5uoYa-1....
Ted Gunderson, letting a mother speak - this is an excruciating video where the real horrormovie satanism stuff is described.

I'm gonna repeat myself : the destruction they orchestrate on the public scale, is just the external component of their private lives, and their true allegiance : SATANISM
All the financial rapes and scams are merely a tool that enables them to do (their) god's work. Their allegiance is not in the first place to money, to yachts, private jets, and private tropical islands. Their primary passion is SATAN.
Those who doubt this is accurate : research, verify, evaluate, talk to people who were subjected to this. You'll be visiting mental institutions pretty soon.
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Maybe they're better described as greedy self-serving sociopaths, Durden?

How long have we known that top politicians, banksters, etc have these 'virtues'?

This is no surprise!

Why have we allowed ourselves [as a nation] to lie asleep at the switch...

...and pursued our OWN greedy self serving course [on a lesser scale]...

...and now whine when we find that we've been far out done and out-manuvered...

...by those more greedy and disgusting than ourselves.

This my fellow Useful Idiot, it HYPOCRASY at it's finest!!!






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we haven't been asleep at the switch. regular, sane persons are not inspired to foist such suffering upon their fellow man. many of their intricate schemes and constructions to dominate and crush others (individuals to nations) are beyond clever and "greedy self-serving sociopaths" is a description that doesnt explain anything.
Until you identify the source of their ways, you will keep on being stunned and amazed by every new abomination they come up with.
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Anybody read the manifesto/protocols authored in Russia before the revolution? You can call them a hoax, or question who authored them, but objectively read their strategy and compare with what has and is happening. Here is one comment from the Dearborn Independent back from 1920:

Too Terribly Real For Fiction

"Whosoever was the mind that conceived them possessed a
knowledge of human nature, of history, and of statecraft which is
dazzling in its brilliant completeness, and terrible in the
objects to which it turns its power. It is too terribly real for
fiction, too well sustained for speculation, to deep in its
knowledge of the secret springs of life for forgery."

The Dearborn Independent, July 10th, 1920.

The players and agents involved in the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 tie into all this IMO.

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Warren Buffett BIG PIMPIN' at Jay-Z's NYC Nightclub

http://www.tmz.com/2012/01/19/warren-buf....
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What's the tag for youtube??

Anyway.

Rick Santorum flip flops... anti-freedom... from his own words...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sbMxxeFY....

Very powerful.

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This is an old thread but hopefully the best place to launch a biscuit that just fell into my lap.
People who get close to someone really famous just can't keep it to themselves it seems. A real estate lady that crossed my path recently, a total stranger to me, thought me an apt target for the bit of bragging she knew she shouldn't be doing (or so her facial expression said...the shouldn't be doing part.)
It seems the individual (maybe the most highly listed among the 25 guilty perpetrators of the global financial crisis)is now living part-time in my area with his wife and they are absorbed with trying to turn the small barrier island they bought (with an old very exclusive resort) into some kind of wilderness reserve. That sounds all lovely in a liberal kind of way but the way it works is land is donated for perpetual wilderness in exchange for extremely generous and long-lasting tax deductions and still remains fully usable by the donor(s) who also no longer owe property tax on it. Kewl huh?
Real estate lady used first names lavishly but if she were truly intimate with this couple she would not have sold them out to an angry patriot with a lot of like-minded friends.
I spent the evening poring over Google Earth psyching out the landscape and likely uses etc. Anyone with interest in collaborating please PM me.

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ORLY?!

Color me interested.

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Hmmm. I wonder if that's what happened a long time ago in St. John (USVI).

Here's the scoop from wiki:

In 1956, Laurance Rockefeller donated most of the land he had acquired on the island to the United States' National Park Service, under the condition that it must be protected from future development. The remaining portion, the Caneel Bay Resort, continues to operate on a lease arrangement while the park owns the actual land. The Virgin Islands National Park borders encompass 75% of the island, but various in-holdings within the park boundary (e.g., Peter Bay, Maho Bay) reduce the actual land the park owns to 60%. However, much of the island's waters, coral reefs and shoreline are protected via their inclusion in the park. This protection was expanded in 2001, when the Virgin Islands Coral Reef National Monument was created.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_John,....

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