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User Info HOLY ****! Did TNX go sub 2.00%???!?! in forum [General]
Fraudster
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I thought I saw a read of 1.99%. Will bilge if wrong. Otherwise, what was the low in 2008/9?

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Ramthebulls
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If my chart is right, this is an all time low

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Fraudster
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That's what I thought. This is it then...

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"Let China sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." - Napoleon Bonaparte

"Circulation ceases first at the outer edges [Europe and Japan]. It will take a while yet for the decay to reach the heart [America]." - Foundation & Empire by Isaac Asimov
Argos
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The 10-Year yield was lower in 1945, I'm pretty sure. I'll look around for documentation.

The Canadian 10-Year yield hit a historic low this morning, per BB Radio.
Jata1
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1.67% all time low
Patmcgroin
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yes, yes.

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Ramthebulls
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ah, okay, my chart doesn't go back to 1945. We are well under the 2008 low anyway.

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Steelpiston71
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According to this: http://www.multpl.com/interest-rate/

Min: 1.95% (Jan 1941)
Max: 15.32% (Sep 1981)

We came .02 from the lowest in recorded history?

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Shorted the 30Y @14077.7

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Back under 2%?

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"We have resolution authority under Frank/Dodd... How about we USE IT?" Karl Denninger, 10/07/10 on the Dylan Ratigan Show, MSNBC.
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The 10Y Bund looks like its at an all time low 1.643%

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Widgeon
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I think we'll see 1%. JMO.
Ben
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That means that any inflation or bond rate increases detonate the Federal Balance Sheet with the tiniest of moves.

As more fiscal time is spent with artificially very very low rates, the system becomes addicted to the low rates and easy free money.

It is gonna suck when it breaks down.

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Low rates destroy capital. See Japan. It is a long painful death.

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Nanna
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I'd be using this rally to offload lower quality debt and bond index funds if I owned any.

Just saying ... not investment advice

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Adding over 9 trillion in debt since 2000 and interest expense stays flat at 230 billion a year, congress and the president must be sending flowers and hookers to Ben every day.

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Laswyguy
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was around 1.8% earlier in the year and last year..

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positive alpha - bitches!
Sean
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I think we'll see 1%. JMO.


I agree.

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* I think Ann Barnhardt is more and more right. God help us!
* Progressives / Marxists / Communists are many things, STUPID and IMPATIENT are not two of them.
* A hot civil war is coming.
* And people wonder why I prep!
Themortgagedude
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From the sky is falling on bonds thread in NotSoBreaking.

TMD writes
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I'd be quite surprised if we don't print another 1 handle on the ten year in the next month.




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Themortgagedude
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It took 25 days. Yep I'm a genius.

I also would not be surprised if we print a 1.O% ten year. If they do the right things we're gonna have a deflationary cycle we haven't seen before.

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Ramthebulls
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1.0 percent is only half the yield of the current level. Those of you predicting it are making a BOLD BOLD claim. I for one say sold to you.

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Themortgagedude
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Not buying it. But I really think we could print 1.65 in the next couple of months with some serious realization of reality happening. My call for a 1.0 is based on an expectation of a deflationary depression.

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Wyocowboy
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Bernanke needed this equity sell off to drop bond yields which were starting to get some legs and that would not be good for Ben.

Ben now has a weak equity market, which is not good for Ben.

Ben, are you in a pickel.

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Before it blows I think 2.0 on the 30 yr

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Can someone explain to a total idiot like me what this means? I am two chromosomes away from dragging knuckles.

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