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Solaris Posts: 395 Incept: 2007-09-09	Yield curve inverting...2y up to 10y all between 7 and 7.2%...7% was the mark called unsustainable for financing further debt 2011-11-09 05:30:18 Permalink
Etika Posts: 244 Incept: 2008-06-15	10y just exceeded 7.4%. 5 year at 7.627%; up 10.95% today. 2011-11-09 06:14:32 Permalink
Luvs_footie Posts: 2423 Incept: 2007-11-26 Australia	I just wonder if Europe blows up.......how many US banks do you think will go with them. All those TBTF? 2011-11-09 06:18:59 Permalink
Thesev Posts: 1385 Incept: 2007-10-30 Louisiana	The amazing thing is that the CNBS heads are talking like TF'ers this morning. ie: The pain is going to happen. ---------- The reason the republic isn't working is that it's being run as a democracy. It doesn't matter who you are, or who you Think you are, the Math is Going to Win. 2011-11-09 06:36:22 Permalink
Wis/min Posts: 5364 Incept: 2009-08-14 On the border	Quote: The amazing thing is that the CNBS heads are talking like TF'ers this morning. I noticed that too. Reality bites 2011-11-09 06:39:36 Permalink
Jubber Posts: 14174 Incept: 2007-07-05 UK	...although they are very smug like it ain't coming their way too ---------- �The problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other people�s money.� Thatcher 2011-11-09 06:43:04 Permalink
Thesev Posts: 1385 Incept: 2007-10-30 Louisiana	Actually, it's been mentioned more than once that it is Indeed Coming Our Way. Albeit mainly from the guests. Let's see if they can stick to that. But yes, the smug is evident. ---------- The reason the republic isn't working is that it's being run as a democracy. It doesn't matter who you are, or who you Think you are, the Math is Going to Win. 2011-11-09 06:46:10 Permalink
Jubber Posts: 14174 Incept: 2007-07-05 UK	Strange that the MIB is holding up here still miles higher than Friday with the BTP at ATH, weird, would have expected it to be down to 14000 ---------- �The problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other people�s money.� Thatcher 2011-11-09 06:47:14 Permalink
Genesis Posts: 130798 Incept: 2007-06-26	I hate it when I'm right. ---------- I don't care* if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me* Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. *Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb.* *What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?* 2011-11-09 06:52:10 Permalink
Wis/min Posts: 5364 Incept: 2009-08-14 On the border	Jim Rogers guested hosted CNBC Europe this morning and was clearly stating the problem here and in the EU. 2011-11-09 06:55:16 Permalink
Thesev Posts: 1385 Incept: 2007-10-30 Louisiana	genesis wrote.. I hate it when I'm right. s'ok, We Love it when you're right! ---------- The reason the republic isn't working is that it's being run as a democracy. It doesn't matter who you are, or who you Think you are, the Math is Going to Win. 2011-11-09 07:17:40 Permalink
Asimov Posts: 104066 Incept: 2007-08-26 East Tennessee Eastern Time	Karl: You love it when you're right. You hate what you're right about. :P [Edit: That's just human nature. :) ] ---------- It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity. If you trade based on what other people say, you will lose money. Especially what I say. I won't be held responsible. Festina lente. Last modified: 2011-11-09 07:19:47 by asimov 2011-11-09 07:18:48 Permalink
Theedge111 Posts: 6806 Incept: 2007-08-07 Online	Everyone saw this coming. Just surprised how fast it happened. ---------- P.J. O'Rourke, writing in "Eat The Rich" (1998), observed that: "Economics is an entire scientific discipline of not knowing what you're talking about." The only quibble may be with the "scientific" part. 2011-11-09 07:39:49 Permalink
Popothebright Posts: 2756 Incept: 2008-05-16 Bangkok Banned	Epic bloodbath dead ahead. ---------- In America the choice of political party is little more than a choice of which corrupt management team implements the corporate agenda. 2011-11-09 07:42:43 From PDA Permalink
Eighty6thebs Posts: 4183 Incept: 2007-06-26 It's contained to sub-prime!	"surprised it happened so fast".... America, are you paying attention? ---------- "Sounds to me like you guys a couple of bookies" - Billy Ray Valentine "No I am not scared, and neither should you be!" - Iraqi Information Minister 2011-11-09 07:44:50 Permalink
Theedge111 Posts: 6806 Incept: 2007-08-07 Online	Nothing to do with that eighty. It should have happened here 4 years ago. I thought the ECB would be able to kick the can down the road a little further like the Fed did. WIthout the EU I suspect our bond yields would near Italian levels. The US is lucky we are the better horse in the glue factory. ---------- P.J. O'Rourke, writing in "Eat The Rich" (1998), observed that: "Economics is an entire scientific discipline of not knowing what you're talking about." The only quibble may be with the "scientific" part. Last modified: 2011-11-09 07:48:38 by theedge111 2011-11-09 07:47:35 Permalink
Fraudster Posts: 4176 Incept: 2011-05-10	How is that CDS invalidation thingy working out for you Europe? Oh btw French 10 year under pressure as well. ---------- *"Let China sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world."* - Napoleon Bonaparte *"Circulation ceases first at the outer edges [Europe and Japan]. It will take a while yet for the decay to reach the heart [America]."* - Foundation & Empire by Isaac Asimov 2011-11-09 08:29:34 Permalink
Nejla Posts: 458 Incept: 2008-02-09 Oakland-Proudly	IIRC 6ish to 7ish% (10yr)is where everything blew up for Greece as well the very first time. Didn't there 10yr rise to a hair over 20% in the span of 2 and a half days? Didn't think I would see it this fast with Italy. They may be about to break their toe on that can of cement. ---------- Be thankful for everything now, for soon there will be nothing. Insanity-Voting for the same people over and over again and expecting different results. 2011-11-09 10:37:15 Permalink
Ape_lincoln Posts: 764 Incept: 2011-08-04 Ron Paul 2012	Man I need to sleep in more often ---------- 2011-11-09 10:40:26 Permalink
Themortgagedude Posts: 8853 Incept: 2007-12-17 saint louis	What's the yield on portugal and spain? ---------- I'm already visualizing you with duct tape over your mouth. 2011-11-09 11:12:39 Permalink
Argos Posts: 6338 Incept: 2008-03-23 The Green Mountain State	The Spanish 10-Year yield is 5.838%, up 3.64%. The Portuguese 10-Year yield is 11.575%, down 0.24%. 2011-11-09 11:19:37 Permalink
Pika-steph Posts: 54732 Incept: 2007-09-11 Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775	I still want to know where all the bond market vigilante nay-sayers are now. ---------- Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org/ "The only regulation that really works is failure."--Rick Santelli 2011-11-09 11:29:34 Permalink
Robw Posts: 837 Incept: 2007-08-10 Southern California	Quote: The amazing thing is that the CNBS heads are talking like TF'ers this morning. All the TBTF banksters most likely went short yesterday. End game starts when bobble heads on CNBS go into pump monkey mode and the markets continue to tank. That is the all in short moment. ---------- The laws of mathematics are not suggestions. - K.D. 2011-11-09 11:31:01 Permalink
Themortgagedude Posts: 8853 Incept: 2007-12-17 saint louis	Wish I was a big money manager right now. I'd go long Italy and short Spain. Spain is the same kind of f'n mess as Italy. Oh the hell with that. I'd just attack Spain and go short Spain. ---------- I'm already visualizing you with duct tape over your mouth. 2011-11-09 12:05:50 Permalink
Themortgagedude Posts: 8853 Incept: 2007-12-17 saint louis	MCC on CNBS says nothing will be done till Germans see blood in the streets. And they start to lose jobs. So is Germany supposed to commit financial suicide to maintain jobs for another 24 months? The stupidity is amazing. ---------- I'm already visualizing you with duct tape over your mouth. 2011-11-09 12:08:01 Permalink

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