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Rjazz117
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I found nothing further on this attack on the Enterprise story either...will keep looking for a bit.
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Asimov
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Buck: How would aljazzera or AFP get out in the middle of the gulf to find out if it's true or not?
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Landshark
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Guys, from what I can make of it, it started with some chick tweeting about it and it went viral. We'd have some news by now, from one side or the other.
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Vitchilo
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/arti....Quote:Iran warns Moscow nuclear talks could stall
An Iranian negotiator warned Sunday that this month's talks in Moscow over Iran's nuclear program could stall because of faulty preparation.
Ali Bagheri, Iran's No. 2 nuclear negotiator, said advance talks were agreed on to clarify the agenda for the Moscow round, set for June 18-19.
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Jeffrey_thomason
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew....Quote:
"Initial steps to design and build nuclear submarine propulsion systems have begun," [Iranian] Admiral Abbas Zamini, the technical deputy navy chief, told the agency.
"All countries have the right to use peaceful nuclear technology, including for the propulsion system of its vessels," he said.
Iran's navy "needs the (nuclear-powered) propulsion system to succeed in realising very long-distance operations."
He did not provide further details.
As Galrahn of Information Dissemination said... "Good luck with that."
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Landshark
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Picked this up from Vitchilo in another thread: U.S. braces for action in Persian Gulf by Staff Writers Manama, Bahrain (UPI) Jun 11, 2012 http://www.spacewar.com/reports/US_brace.... Amid dimming expectations that next week's talks in Moscow will defuse the U.S.-Iranian confrontation in the Persian Gulf, the U.S. Navy has sent four additional mine countermeasures ships to the region to oppose an Iranian threat to close the vital oil artery. The deployment doubles the number of mine-hunting warships the U.S. 5th Fleet, which has headquarters in Bahrain, will have operating in the region, through which one-fifth of the world's oil supplies pass. The U.S. Navy has identified the mine-hunters as the Avenger class USS Sentry, USS Devastator, USS Pioneer and USS Warrior out of San Diego. These slow-moving 1,379-ton ships, all transported to the gulf aboard heavy-lift vessels, will join their forward-deployed sister ships USS Scout, USS Gladiator, USS Ardent and USS Dextrous. The British navy also has four mine countermeasures vessels in the gulf. The Americans plan to deploy at least four mine-sweeping MH-53E Sea Dragon helicopters to the gulf as well. The Iranians have threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz, the only way in and out of the gulf, if its vital oil exports are cut off or if it is attacked. They are reputed to have in excess of 5,000 mines, many of them advanced Russian-built variants that are hard to detect and disarm. They also have batteries of Chinese-designed cruise missiles along the waterway's eastern shore. Iran's air force has strike aircraft, although these are largely outdated U.S.-built F-14 Tomcats bought during the days of the shah. They have some Russian-made MiG-29s as well. If a shooting war does break out, the U.S. Central Command believes it's capable of destroying or seriously degrading Iran's forces within three weeks, U.S military sources say. This would be achieved largely through air and sea strikes using aircraft and missiles, the sources say. The Americans have two navy carrier battle groups in the region. In April, the Pentagon deployed an unspecified number of Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor strike jets, the most advanced operational fighter in the world, to Al-Dhafra airbase near Abu Dhabi, capital of the United Arab Emirates. Al Dhafra is being used by U.S. Air Force KC-10 aerial tankers along with U.S. surveillance aircraft, including the venerable U-2 and the unmanned Global Hawk. At about the same time, the Air Force deployed 20 upgraded F-15C Eagles of the 104th Fighter Wing of the Massachusetts Air National Guard to an undisclosed base in the Central Command area of operations. Military sources say the Boeing F-15s are either at Al Dhafra or the large U.S. air base at Al Udaid in the Gulf emirate of Qatar. Al Udaid also houses Central Command's forward headquarters. The F-22s and the 104th's F-15s are believed to have been training to operate together in the air-to-air fighting role, tasked with eliminating the Iranian air force's fighter squadrons. "The Raptor-Eagle team has been honing special tactics for clearing the skies of Iranian fighters in the event of war," reported David Axe of Wired.com, which specializes in military weapons systems. Axe noted that the "U.S. dogfighting armada" assembling in the Arab monarchies on the gulf's western shore that face Iran would likely operate in small groups, using silent electronic exchanges of data to "wipe out the antiquated but determined Iranian air force" with state-of-the-art missiles systems. The U.S. air assets would provide a "significant dogfighting presence" in the gulf, Axe noted. The F-22 has been deployed to the Pacific theater several times but has yet to make its combat debut since it was declared operational in 2005. But for all its vaunted combat capabilities, the aircraft's been plagued a serious flaw in its oxygen generating system that has caused some pilots to lose consciousness. U.S. forces also have a heavy air component aboard the carrier battle groups headed by the USS Enterprise and the USS Abraham Lincoln in the region. Between them they can muster more than 100 combat F/A-18 Hornet and Super Hornet strike aircraft. But former CIA officer Philip Giraldi has warned that U.S. Internal Look war games conducted in March indicated that the Navy "would have considerable problems dealing with Iranian offensive operations" in the narrow waters of the strait. The games "revealed that there is a high probability that Americans vessels will be sunk, with considerable loss of life," Giraldi observed.
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Glasshopper
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Quote:outdated U.S.-built F-14 Tomcats I think those Tomcats are scaring them ****less
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Hiphopapotamus
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Yee-ha, Jester's dead!
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Landshark
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One of my favorite lines, Hipho.
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Success in life is a matter not so much of talent and opportunity as of concentration and perseverance.
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Muscleknight
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How do the they get parts for the F-14's and F-4's?
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Landshark
Posts: 11240
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Black market would be about the only way, otherwise, fly 'em till they crash.
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Success in life is a matter not so much of talent and opportunity as of concentration and perseverance.
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Swingtrader
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Incept: 2007-08-12
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Quote:How do the they get parts for the F-14's and F-4's cannibalize mostly, I'm thinking - plus, seems like I read a decade ago that less than 25% were actually able to get of the ground. Probably less than that now, although truly I don't really know. And apparantly few people outside of Iran know - one thread I found while googling the subject http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthrea....I will note that having say, 20 that are in the air, doesn't mean that 20 are at effective combat readiness - with now what - 35 year old technology?
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Tallystick
Posts: 2228
Incept: 2009-09-20
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They can probably fabricate some of the parts, and pay German or Chinese companies to copy broken parts their domestic manufacturing can't handle.
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Outsider1
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Incept: 2008-10-13
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Quote:The British navy also has four mine countermeasures vessels in the gulf.
The RN has just sent two more mine countermeasures vessels to the gulf ostensibly as replacements/rotation. The RN also has 4 Type 23 frigates in the gulf - reputadely the best ASW frigate in the world. Plus 1 Type 45 AD destroyer. The RN also has half a squadron of Merlin ASW helicopters opposite the straights of Hormuz - again reputadely the best ASW helicopter in the world. |
Harrisonact
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Quote:I think those Tomcats are scaring them ****less Don't worry, Maverick has it all under control. haha. 5'2" 'action hero' to the rescue. I have it on semi-reasonable authority (a cuban ATP, minor friend whose bro flies MI-8/24s (I'm rotary rated) said that russian equipped air fleet countries have their own little 'ebay' thing going on among them. Germany sold some 29 spares to Cuba (yes, Germany they had a squadron of 29's until recently). Too weird. Luftwaffe Migs... There's your useless trivia for the day.
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Jeffrey_thomason
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http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.....Quote:Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad plans to retire from politics when his second term ends next year, AFP quoted him as saying on Saturday in an interview with the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, scheduled to be published on Sunday.
“Eight years is enough,” Ahmadinejad, 55, told the German paper.
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When they turn the pages of history, when these days have passed long ago. Will they read of us with sadness for the seeds that we let grow?
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Jeffrey_thomason
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http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News/....Quote:
On the eve of the third round of talks between Iran and the world powers expected to begin Monday in Moscow, Israeli officials urged the international community to better impress upon Tehran that they will face military action if their nuclear march is not stopped.
“Our position is that the international community needs to do three things for the talks to be successful,” an official said Sunday. “Make its demands crystal clear and tied to a clear timeline for implementation, ratchet up the economic and diplomatic pressure, and augment that pressure by making clear there is a credible military option.” The official, reflecting a position that has been percolating for weeks in Jerusalem, said there is a sense the Iranians are not yet convinced that when the US or others say that “all options are on the table,” they actually mean it.
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When they turn the pages of history, when these days have passed long ago. Will they read of us with sadness for the seeds that we let grow?
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Landshark
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Quote:Israeli officials urged the international community to better impress upon Tehran that they will face military action if their nuclear march is not stopped. Well... crap.
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Success in life is a matter not so much of talent and opportunity as of concentration and perseverance.
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Jeffrey_thomason
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Cross posting from the Syrian thread since I think it's relevant here too: http://www.tehrantimes.com/politics/9885....Quote:
An informed source has announced that Iran, Russia, China, and Syria plan to stage a joint war game in Syria in the near future, the Persian service of the Fars News Agency reported on Monday.
Fars News Source: http://www.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=....Translated excerpt: Quote:
According Shamlayf, this exercise is scheduled to be held less than a month, ie, early July.
This exercise is said to include ground forces, air and sea and air and missile defense and China has been successful in Egypt for official approval of the Suez Canal must pass through 12 Chinese ship carrying sea and air military equipment will be up to two weeks Trtvs Lazqyh coast and reached Syria.
The move coincided with China's nuclear ships and submarines and aircraft carriers of Russia and Russian Mynrvb "Nbrdnav" into Iranian waters and submarines will be Syria.
According to the report, the Syrian air defense missiles, coastal defense and be tested in this exercise.
Known, 90-thousand troops from the four countries involved in this exercise and 400 aircraft and 1,000 tanks and hundreds of missiles will be used in this exercise.
The source emphasized that this exercise will be done after cleaning Syria;
Frankly, I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't track down the original source myself. It could still be false, but it is originating with Farsnews.
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When they turn the pages of history, when these days have passed long ago. Will they read of us with sadness for the seeds that we let grow?
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Landshark
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If that's true, whole lot of potential for things to go wrong.
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Success in life is a matter not so much of talent and opportunity as of concentration and perseverance.
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Videopro
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Fars is quoting from Al-Shakhoura.
Not their own original content.
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1lumpor2
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Vitchilo
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Incept: 2011-04-27
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http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-de....Quote:U.S. blog Business Insider: U.S., Israel continue preparations for strike on Iran nuclear facilities
The website cites U.S. defense contracts and Israel's new military preparations, suggesting that 'all sides are getting ready for whatever may come.'
"U.S. defense contracts, an… F-16 acquisition, and Israel's new military preparations suggest that all sides are getting ready for whatever may come," the report says.
According to the blog, the U.S navy has recently signed a $338 million contract with defense contractor Raytheon to "provide the Navy with 361 Tomahawk cruise missiles in their most recent configuration. According to the website, the U.S. is either renewing its stock of missiles or planning ahead.
A senior Israeli official recently told Reuters that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has decided to attack Iran before the U.S. elections in November. Quote:CNN learns USS Ponce warship transits Suez Friday--on way to PG--SEALS may board eventually USS Ponce... Quote:Afloat Forward Staging Base, Interim (AFSB-I)
On 24 January 2012, the Military Sealift Command posted a bid request to retrofit the USS Ponce on a rush-order basis.In response to requests from United States Central Command, the ship was converted to a staging base for mine countermeasures helicopters and ships/boats.[12]The ship is expected to be completely transformed in an estimated four to five months.[13]The ship will be operated jointly by active-duty Navy officers and sailors, as well as government civilian mariners from Military Sealift Command. The USS Ponce will be modified as an Afloat Forward Staging Base (AFSB) to support mine-sweeping MH-53 Sea Dragon helicopters.[14][15] MSC issued requests for proposal to upgrade and refit the ship. The work includes upgrading the ship’s navigation systems, bringing habitability up to MSC standards and general refurbishment.[15] The Ponce will be designated as AFSB(I) 15, (I) for the interim.[14] It's heading to Bahrain and it's obviously will be used for a war on Iran to counter Iran mines in the strait. October surprise... strike on Iran. Bet on it. October 15 : New moon.
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken
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Vitchilo
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Incept: 2011-04-27
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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/N....Quote:US-Israel War Games against Israel Planned near Elections Quote:Iran might block Strait of Hormuz from U.S. Navy minesweepers (Reuters) Quote:Peres to Putin: I know that Russia opposes the development of an Iranian nuclear weapon (Ch. 10) http://www.platts.com/RSSFeedDetailedNew....Quote:The EU's sanctions against Iran -- including a ban on oil imports and a ban on the provision of insurance for tankers shipping Iranian oil -- will come into force as planned on July 1, EU foreign ministers said Monday. This will hit hard unless China or someone else insure Iranian oil ships. http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-....Quote:
The commander of Iran’s ground forces, Ahmad-Reza Pourdastan, was quoted by the Iranian Student News Agency Monday as saying Iran might use its influence over the Strait of Hormuz to defend its interests.
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-....Quote:Four U.S. navy minesweepers arrive in the Gulf Syria and Iran are in cross-hair at the same time...
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken
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Vitchilo
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Incept: 2011-04-27
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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,....Quote:Eyeballing Iran? US commissions 361 cruise missiles
The United States has commissioned 361 new Tomahawk cruise missiles, and some 238 of them are meant to find their way to the Fifth Fleet, which is based in Bahrain, Ynet learned on Sunday. Seeing the number of cruise missiles being deployed against Iran, I think we'll only see surgical strikes on nuclear installations, anti-air/anti-ship/ballistic missiles batteries and military bases... perhaps even high level government buildings. But full scale destruction? I don't think so. 159 were used in Libya... 725 during the Iraqi invasion. Seems to me the Pentagon thinks that Iran's military forces will be obliterated and they won't counter attack. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,....Quote:Iran warns EU oil embargo to impact nuclear talks http://world.mediamonitors.net/content/v....Quote:Saudi Arabia: Persian Gulf of Strategic Interest to NATO http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-24....Quote:Iran Can Limit Tankers Access to Strait of Hormuz, Kayhan Says http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424....Quote:EU Confirms Full Iran Oil Embargo to Start Sunday Full scale sanctions hit Sunday... Next week could be real hot.
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