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Brushyourteeth
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To the rest: You don't have to like it, you never do anyhow. We will do what we think is necessary to survive. If this mean $12 gas for you, so be it. I've been paying $8 for the last year, you can do it too. You don't have to fight, you don't have to pay, you don't have to do a damn thing. But when we do what we need to do, don't bitch about it, you had your chance to change the outcome and didn't.


This is the mentality of most Israelis, too. They are leech****s. And when they don't get their way, they whine like little girls. It's no different than a cheap Chinatown *****. Israel would be nothing without the West, and if we were smart, we would drop your asses sooner than you can say, "glass parking lot." That is the only way you and the Muslims will ever find peace, so lets pray for that solution.

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Ever been to Israel? Spoken with any citizens, the common folk there?
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^ of course not. He's never been in the ME and knows. Itching about it.

Note that the quoted text actually says "you don't have to pay, you don't have to do a damn thing. But when we do what we need to do" while he accuses them of saying the opposite.

Good one, Brush.

Malachor
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I reserve my hatred for the US politicians who endlessly grovel at the feet of Israeli polticians.

The best play for the USA, if Israel conducts a military strike on Iran, is to do our own military strike on Israel. A man can dream can't he?
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The best play for the US would be to stop sending military gear to anyone in the middle east, stop all foreign aid to any middle eastern country, declare strict neutrality, and adhere to that policy 100%.
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@ Yonatan – Yes, you folks in Israel can and should do whatever you deem necessary to survive. If your choice is between surviving as a people or pleasing armchair political pundits/a-holes that disparage you from 8,000 miles away on internet forums, then I think it is an easy choice to make.

There are some people you will only be able to please by becoming extinct. I say **** 'em and do what you have to do.

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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/N....
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Financial System Preparing for Iran Strike, Says Fischer

Bank of Israel Governor says the financial system is preparing for an Israeli strike in Iran and a resulting downturn in the economy.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,....
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US says has 'eyes' inside Iran nuclear program

In remarks seemingly directed at Israel, Washington asserts it would know once Iran acquired the knowledge, capability and materials to build nuclear bomb; former CIA official suggests Obama may accept nuclear Iran

Top officials in Jerusalem said on Friday that Barak was the most vehement advocate for a strike on Iran, while Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu still has reservations and is yet to decide about the best course of action.

"Barak is advocating for action and the defense establishment is investing billions to prepare for an Israeli military operation," an official close to the issue told Ynet.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-and-isra....
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Focusing on stopping ballistic missiles and featuring thousands of soldiers, the October drill will simulate simultaneous rocket fire from Syria and Iran


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Malachor

Who endlessly grovels? Can you show me an example of endless groveling?

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Lk wrote..
landshark you've obviously never set foot in the middle East. You should go. It's very interesting


Lk, this makes no sense.

You have no idea whether or not I've ever set foot in the Middle-East. None whatsoever.

And furthermore, it makes no difference whether I or anyone else here has or not, at least where this topic is concerned.


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Does LK stand for Likud?

Only Mr. Likud has been to the Middle East.

Hopefully himself or his offspring will be the ones marching in, not anybody else.

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Scores dead and over 2,000 injured after two quakes strike Iran

http://www.rt.com/news/quake-iran-killed....
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http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-de....
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IDF to test emergency text-message alerts to Israelis' cell phones

Officials expect the system to be operational by next month.

Another proof they are going to war... and a big one at that. So no attack in August... seems like all points toward OCTOBER...

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/....
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36 Iranian oil tankers reflagged with the Tanzanian flag without the country's knowledge

Tanzania said it was now in the process of de-registering the vessels after an investigation into the origin of the ships concluded they were originally from Iran.

Now that Iranian plans have been foiled... what will they do... lash out or try something new?
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-de....
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Israeli official: Iran has made progress toward nuclear warhead

The new intelligence was introduced as a last-minute update to the special National Intelligence Estimate on the Iranian nuclear program that was submitted to U.S. President Barack Obama a week ago.

The official, who asked to remain anonymous, said new intelligence obtained by the United States, Israel and other Western countries shows that the Iranian activity around the "weapon group" - the final stage in the development of a nuclear weapon - is progressing far beyond the scope known to the International Atomic Energy Agency.

The new intelligence was introduced as a last-minute update to the special National Intelligence Estimate on the Iranian nuclear program that was submitted to U.S. President Barack Obama a week ago.

Funny how it was added ``at the last minute`` to the briefing... me thinks it's probably exagerated... a lot.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,....
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IDF redeploys munitions, supply reserves

Military said to be dispersing rations, munitions and strategic supplies among facilities nationwide in order to protect them during wartime

Yeah nothing is going down...

And to ANYONE who REALLY cares about Israelis (which is different than Israel's government) this is a very interesting editorial...
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,....
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The Zionist case against attacking Iran

The first effect of a conflict would be rocketing oil prices. Barrel price estimates in a war scenario range from US$150 to around double this amount. What will this mean to a Europe tethering on the brink of bankruptcy? Can the USA assist Israel militarily without being embroiled in a war that aggravates its deficit and debt problems?

The effects of an oil price surge in addition to market volatility make economic forecasting models predict war will generate a global recession. This situation will generate the kind of mass unemployment which is fertile ground for political extremism.

In such a gloomy climate, the unemployed masses would probably pick a more conventional scapegoat than Iranian Shiites for their problems. During the 1930s millions of Europeans and Americans believed that Jewish financiers had a hand in causing the Great Depression. It would be wise for Israel’s leaders to consider how a global economic slump triggered by an Israeli attack would benefit anti-Semites.

The blowback from a rushed Israeli attack on Iran will probably be another “peace conference” where an irate Europe, an enraged Russia, and an exhausted America impose on Israel what the international community still regards as the panacea to the Israeli-Muslim conflict: a full withdrawal from the West Bank along the borders of 1967.

Even if an attack on Iran delays its nuclear program for a few years, the dynamics of Middle East diplomacy mean that Israel will pay the bill for any war by giving Fatah & Hamas a state in the West Bank. Will this state be peaceful? Given the Gaza precedent the evidence suggests that this state will be an irredentist proxy of an Iran bent on revenge. And given that in a few years Iran might very well be able to rebuild its nuclear capabilities it appears short-sighted to pay for evanescent gains with a strategic calamity.

But eh, like self-obsessed with a messianic complex Barak and Bibi will listen...

http://atlanticsentinel.com/2012/07/saud....
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Saudis Alarm Pakistan With India Outreach

The Washington Post reports that Saudi Arabia hopes to improve ties with India by deporting an Indian national who is accused of involvement in the 2008 Mumbai terrorist attack and planning to extradite another.

“For years, India watched helplessly as many of its most wanted terrorism suspects traveled freely to Saudi Arabia from Pakistan with new identities and passports and without fear of arrest,” the newspaper writes. No more, it seems.

The deportations are part of a charm offensive on the oil kingdom’s part. After Saudi king Abdullah visited New Delhi in 2006, the two countries signed cooperation agreements in 2010 on counterterrorism, energy and narcotics. Last year, Riyadh agreed to double its oil exports to India to help it reduce its reliance on Iran.


http://www.todayszaman.com/news-289166-t....
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Turkey says it will do ‘whatever is required' against Iran

In a sign of a further rift with its mullah regime neighbor, Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Bülent Arınç slammed Iran on Thursday, saying that the Turkish government is disturbed by Iran's stance against Turkey.

Speaking to a group of reporters over an iftar (fast-breaking) dinner, Arınç said that Ankara is uncomfortable with the positions the Iranian government has taken recently towards Turkey on a number of issues, not necessarily tied to the Syrian crisis.

“What I mean by disturbing behavior [by the Iranian regime] is not related to Syria,” he said, stressing that Turkey will do ‘whatever is required” to counter Iranian threats.

The Turkish minister implied that a recent surge in terror attacks in Turkey's Southeast has the backing of Iran. “We have received information that Kurdistan Workers' Party [PKK] terrorists infiltrated from the Iranian side of the border and that they were stationed in the Şehidan camp [in Iran] and crossed into Turkey from the region of Harkuk in northern Iraq,” he said.

Based on government intelligence, Today's Zaman reported on Friday that the PKK had relocated some of its militants from hideouts in northern Iraq's Kandil Mountains to a terror camp on the Turkish-Iranian border, from where it can launch attacks against targets in Turkey.


http://pik.tv/en/news/story/44676-russia....
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Russia May Withdraw Support for Iran over S-300 Lawsuit

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Me thinks that last one's worth postin in brief. It's all about $$. Small question? If Iran doesn't get the s-300's... it's no billion dollar loss, just a q of to whom they will be sold. Or maybe the russkies want to defend themselves.

They really call the shots. They can delay ME war a few years, months or start one tomorrow. I sure wish spetsnaz would slip into syria & snatch out the lost bio_chem wmd and bury them. It would make a great show. The whole world would love Russia, even Russians would be truly proud.
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10 AUG 2012 11:29 • VIEWS: 191
RUSSIA MAY WITHDRAW SUPPORT FOR IRAN OVER S-300 LAWSUIT
Russia has threatened to remove its support for Iran’s right to nuclear energy due to a lawsuit Iran has filed against Rosoboronexport, Russia’s state military export company, Kommersant reported Aug. 10, citing a source in the Russian government.

The Iranian government filed a $4-billion suit against Rosoboronexport over its suspension of a contract to supply Iran with S-300 air defense systems.

According to Kommersant, the Kremlin has considered Iran “ungrateful” for Russia’s consistent support to Tehran’s nuclear program.

A source in the Russian government reportedly said that if the claim is not removed, “Iran will have to deal with the nuclear issue on the international stage alone.”

Moscow has so far blocked sanctions against Iran. According to Kommersant, the removal of Russia’s support would reduce the risk for Israel should it decide to launch a preventive strike against Iran.

Russia began to supply Iran with S-300 missile complexes in 2007. The contract stipulated purchases amounting to $800 million, but in 2010, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree implementing a UN Security Council resolution, which banned the sale of advanced weapons systems to Iran.


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Diplomat: Russia Got No-Strike Pledge for Killing S-300 Deal
02 Aug 2012 14:16
Iran's ambassador to Russia said that Moscow canceled the deal in exchange for assurances the West would not attack Iran's nuclear facilities
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Iran's ambassador to Russia said that Moscow canceled the deal in exchange for assurances the West would not attack Iran's nuclear facilities

Well the Russian got screwed since it looks like Israel will start it... then the US will be attacked and then the deal will be off.

Anyway if the US/NATO invades, wouldn't surprise me if China and Russia arms Iran undercover... not with too much high tech stuff, but with portable anti-air and anti-tank missiles... not to mention small arms and ammo.

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And to ANYONE who REALLY cares about Israelis (which is different than Israel's government)


^^^^ THAT RIGHT THERE ^^^^

And if you need further question my position toward Jews, try reading through this without sobbing your heart out. If you can, you're not even human:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-....

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Israel's prime minister says the threat from Iran dwarfs all others the Jewish state faces.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told his Cabinet on Sunday: "Iran must not be allowed to obtain nuclear weapons."
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wire....
Malachor
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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told his Cabinet on Sunday: "Iran must not be allowed to obtain nuclear weapons."


The follow up and logical question to ask Netanyahu is Why not?

Is it only the Jewish state that is allowed to have hundreds of nuclear weapons for their security but those brown-skinned guys with the funny clothes are not permitted to have any for their security?

Reason: Clarity
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Why not? Because they have said they're going to use them on us once they get them. Try to keep up with the program.
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1 of the U.S. Navy's guided-missile destroyers suffered minor damage when it collided with an oil tanker early Sunday just outside the strategic Strait of Hormuz.

The collision left a gaping hole in the starboard side of USS Porter but no one was injured on either vessel, the U.S. Navy said in a statement. The collision with the Panamanian-flagged bulk oil tanker M/V Otowasan occurred at approximately 1 a.m. local time.
http://www.ksla.com/story/19256373/us-na....
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Yonotan, its not a very big leap for someone who denies that the holocaust happened to deny that Iran ever said or implied they would wipe out Israel. You have to understand who you are dealing with here.

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"The best play for the USA, if Israel conducts a military strike on Iran, is to do our own military strike on Israel. A man can dream can't he?"

1. May you lead the way.
2. It would not surprise me, 1 bit, if the US where to attack Israel.

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http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-de....
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Olmert: Israeli strike on Iran without U.S. okay 'irresponsible'

Olmert tells crowd in northern Israeli college that the Iranian nuclear project has not 'reached a level that forces Israel to act immediately or in the near future.'

Gee, Olmert the war criminal is right...

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Dozens protest potential Iran strike in front of Ehud Barak's Tel Aviv home (Haaretz)

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Poll: 64% of Israelis think country's shouldn't strike Iran's nuclear facilities (Ch. 10)


http://www.timesofisrael.com/decision-by....
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Decision by Netanyahu, Barak to strike Iran is almost final — Israel TV



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I'll grant you that Olmert is a criminal - but a war criminal, that's just your opinion. He's been out of the loop for years now, how is his opinion of where the Iranian nuclear project is at the moment of any merit? Oh, right, because you agree with him.

Dozens protest...BFD, when don't dozens protest? We had a much larger protest here last year over the price of cottage cheese. The 64% figure doesn't sound right either. Israeli's are not watching football and dancing with the stars.
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