Riiiight.... I'm supposed to care if someone*****es on a corpse when the same animal group televised multiple BEHEADINGS of CIVILIANS who simply were the "wrong religion" and thus targeted for EXECUTION?

Uh, **** that. My only regret is that these Marines didn't spray these ****ers with bacon grease BEFORE*****ing on them.

Its a good thing those bad guys desecrate bodies, dismember, maim and kill women and children and torture. It gives us license to do the same thing. I was beginning to worry we weren't better than them.

Hydrate the guys and send them back in.....

Really, anybody who doesn't get why these guys*****ed on the ragheads is a complete sheltered moron.

This has been happening since we crawled out of the muck. It's even been a common use in the english language ("piss on that")

It is to show CONTEMPT, and make no mistake if you actually understood what the taliban vermin have done and are doing to women, children and their neighbors while trying their best to kill you for trying to stop the atrocities...well you would either***** on yourself being the little coward you are or***** on the taliban scum ****ers.

should have coiled one down on the dead ****ers face.

Exactly.

Gee, I'm supposed to have RESPECT for someone who just tried to kill me -- and failed?

Uh, no.

by the way, after engagement, you REALLY have to***** anyway....

Well, I understand why someone who was being shot at might want to***** on the shooter after they got them. But re the comparison with the Taliban and their excesses:

1. The Taliban's mission is to scare off people who would oppose them or support the US/NATO. So the brutal videos are part of that mission.

The US/NATO mission is to put the Taliban out of circulation and to win the local people over. The*****ing video does not help, but hinders that mission.

2. The Taliban are *******s, and we are hoping to show that part of the world that our way is better. And we know most of them want to do things our way ultimately.

Defending and rationalizing this video pushes us closer to the Taliban/Al Qaeda types than it enhances our values or ethos. Looking at our airports and the restrictions in place there, looking at the NDAA and Patriot Act and other pushes by the government controllers, we are moving in the wrong direction and using the bad guys as the rationalization for that.

As for comparisons with WWII and Nam, those comparisons also have to take into consideration the fact that we learned a lot from those wars, and we actually executed Germans and Japanese for waterboarding and other forms of torture. If you think our having a double-standard is okay bcos our **** don't stink, then sure NDAA etc make perfect sense. We the people want these folks protecting us no matter what they do in the name of protecting us.

BTW, these guys*****ing was a dumb move no matter what. But war is a nasty thing, and has a dehumanizing quality to it. The proper context is to show how LEO has behaved in such a manner to civilians who misbehave (ranging anywhere from drunken behavior to driving while black to violently attacking the cops.)

Anyway, we pay these volunteers to go and perform their mission there, and that gives the office-****s back in DC to tell them when they have done something wrong. Accountability has to be part of the system. And please do hold the Defense Secretary accountable, regardless of whether a Marine*****es on a Afghan or not.

what we have learned since WW2 is how to LOSE WARS.

Seriously the record is dismal. it isn't ability, equipment or the boots on the ground. It's the misguided and PC 'win the hearts" approach and "nation building" attitudes coupled with a completely rose tinted view of the attitudes and cultures of the people we are fighting.

You post sounds reasonable but the POV is deluded... sorry.

Winning a war is to dominate in every aspect, break the will, destroy the infrastructure and kill the enemy and every person who dares support them. It is brutal, disgusting and sometimes required. Only when we do that well enough and long enough that the will of the enemy is crushed or they are all dead can peace have even a hope of being reality.

By the way, the dead rag heads already both **** and*****ed themselves when they died.

The problem I have with this is we've never declared a War. It appears that officially, we are in Afghanistan at the behest of their government and that we are mercenaries or are a 'for hire' police force. Well where is our paycheck?

Why - if we are merc or police - does the US have to foot the bill?

If we are to be at war let's have a war. Let's rob, pillage and keep what we kill. It's the half-assed approach that ticks me off. For example, if we were at war, our borders would be sealed. If we were at war xenophobia would be raging and we'd be tearing down Mosques. If we're going to have a real war on drugs we'd have booted every illegal from south of the border out of the country YEARS ago. I'm sorry, we've had a jihad declared upon us but we're too politically correct to respond in kind. So what we end up with is a creeping takeover from the inside. We've seen it happen with education, we've seen it happen with banks, we've seen it happen with corporate socialism and now we're going to see it happen to our religion/culture.

A war is supposed to be brutal. If this were a war we'd be able to be proud of the fact that we decimate our enemies. We've been timid since Vietnam. Timid so that we could feed the military/industrial/financial complex while appeasing sheep.

It's half assed solutions that cost Americans to the benefit of....? And we allow it to happen. STOP ALLOWING POLICE ACTIONS UNLESS WE ARE PAID UP FRONT. If you're going to fight DECLARE A FREAKING WAR and get-r-done. ****!

bull****, we are not in "stan because their govt. requested it, we removed their government and placed our own in.

Karl:

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**** that.

You want to***** on me when I'm dead? Go right ahead -- if the afterlife is real and my spirit lives on, you're the one with the risk.

Kinda my take on it too. If I'm dead... any force that was in me when I was upright has left the building. Stick an apple in my mouth / meat sack and BBQ me for all I care......'cause I ain't there anymore. Shove a bottle rocket up my ass and have a party. I won't care....I promise.

Well, like I said -- if the afterlife stuff is real I might well care, but the risk is yours if you want to***** on me. If it is real and my soul exists, and I as a consequence get*****ed, then I might play "Poltergeist" with you.

Or not.

Vidoepro, how about a quick summary?

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Fire Pannetta. Impeach Obama. Trials at the hauge

I am really sick of hearing everyone on talk radio complaining about how awful this is. These very same people will tell you we have to waterboard to get the answers we want to hear. It just makes me sick. If we are to be a moral compass for the world then we don't do any of this. There was a time in our history where as a rule we treated prisoners humanely and won many to our side of thinking. I think those days are long gone. I understand why these soldiers did what they did, I don't condemn them but neither do I condone it. All this screaming about how bad it was for them to do this and yet condone torture is just ludicrous to me.

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You better check out what we did to Japanese prisoners after we found out what they were doing to ours In WW2 and why they quit torturing our prisoners. And it was encouraged by Sec of War

As a side note has anyone actually seen a stream of***** in that video. I'm old with bad eyes.

"bull****, we are not in "stan because their govt. requested it, we removed their government and placed our own in."

That's the truth but the spin is that we teamed up with the Northern Alliance to fight the Taliban. It's an undeclared war and we've restrained our soldiers to act as peace keepers and nation builders and not soldiers on a defined mission.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afgh....

So where is our paycheck? Why does this war cost American cash money and lives with zero economic return to taxpayers? Why does the loot of war go to industry and Chinese corporations and why isn't the Afghan government compensating American soldiers families for their losses?

We could have continued to bomb them to the stone age and left them to pick up their own pieces. What do we owe them that we think we have to rebuild their nation? Do we believe we are going to effect change on their beliefs? Are we going to eventually teach them that they need to grant their women equal rights as human beings?

When half-assed wars are tempered with the veil of peace keeping missions and nation building we are asking for nothing more than perpetual war. Just wait till the drones and robots become the main fighting force with non-bloodied sociopaths at the controls.

Pissing on dead enemies is no big deal if you are in a war. Filming it when you boss is trying to make claims to the world that you are building a nation, creating a democracy and settling a make believe civil war is just plain stupid. If we are to engage a foreign enemy devastate them don't coddle them.

Everyone wants to skirt the fact that this is mostly the continuation of a religious conflict enduring for hundreds if not thousands of years and that it has no chance of resolution until there is total submission by one side or the other - anyone thinking different is wearing blinders in my opinion.

England submitted to the US. The South submitted to the North. Germany submitted to the US and allies and Japan submitted totally as well. Tired of it. Bring me a bloody war with clear victory or no war at all.

ponzi- you can NOT "bomb them back to the stone age"...because they are already there. You lack a basic understanding of Afghanistan.

Your "who profits" comments are a laugh, any TF'er should know the what and why, it is no different than any other bubble.

England NEVER submitted to the US, they lost and couldn't hold, they withdrew and eventually reconized the US, the shared culture made that happen more quickly than most, the South, Germany and Japan all were beaten to submission.

Most of those questions are rhetorical. By bombing them to the stone age I really mean bomb them in to the stone age. Not one standing city. No travel between cities. No electricity and no place to fuel up. That's a war.

just over 75% of the pop lives in rural areas there. Even the stone ages had cities...

That video mentions the Geneva Conventions...which the Taliban do not follow.

If they are not playing by that set of rules, then we shouldn't.

In Vietnam to give one back to the Regulars cut the heads off and penis and stuck in their mouths..Brass knew it....they did it to us we did it back to them and it stopped...this is ridiculous to get upset...Frat parties have demonstrated some of the same when they are drunk...silly to make such a big deal over this...rather strange u can kill them but to do this (release tension etc) is a crime..give me a break...possible poor taste..and don't film it..war is primal..how would it affect you go go out every day to kill or be killed....what stress levels etc...thought of taking human life regardless how justified or not...I'm just glad my lottery number was 280...