??? If the total problem is it running over the Ogallala Aquifer, why not just re-route it? I mean, it's not like re-routing it would make that much of a deal. ???

Who needs a pipeline when your good buddy, Warren Buffett, owns a railroad?
http://www.bnsf.com/customers/where-can-....

From the Globe and Mail:

"The U.S. State Department said it told the President the pipeline, which would carry 800,000 barrels of day of oil sands bitumen from Canada to the Gulf Coast, isn't in America's national interest. "

Since you cannot have coal fired power plants according to the EPA to run electric cars, have not built thorium reactors, do you own a bicycle?

Rickshaw pedicabs are common in Asia, perhaps Obamma could have a presidential one made.

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Have you seen the most recent export numbers from Mexico? I haven't, but thought they had "re-started" Canterell and reversed the precipitous decline from that field.

Now them's some skittles. It's down more than 75% from peak. That's a good one though.

Parents on vacation were talking to some Canadians about this. Apparently the Canadians thought the Tea Party is to blame for killing the pipeline.

Is that what Canadian news is telling them?

No, nothing to do with the Tea Party. It's well known here that it is the environmental lobby twisting Obama's arm re Keystone.

Sad thing is, we are now actively planning on building a pipeline to the west coast because of this decision, and diversifying our oil customer base. Can you blame us?

What would be frikken hilarious is if you built some more refineries, then sold the US gas. Ship it by truck. Lol.

It would be a good fu. I'd approve! And nope can't blame Canada one wit.

Apparently its the position of the obama administration and the environmentalist movement that we should do little to source oil from friendly countries rather the the me and Venezuela.

Please do us a favor and burn dc to the ground for the third time.

??? If the total problem is it running over the Ogallala Aquifer, why not just re-route it? I mean, it's not like re-routing it would make that much of a deal. ???


Widgeon, that is why the people studying the design wanted it stopped in its present route. The Canadian company did not want any delays.

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Now them's some skittles. It's down more than 75% from peak. That's a good one though.

You misunderstand. In 2009, the rate of depletion would have had Mexico ceasing ALL oil exports by the end of 2010. Since that hasn't happened, I attributed it, at least in part, to efforts to stem the decline from Cantarell.

Seems like Obama is back trying to appease the environmentalist again. Someone in his cabinet is probably telling him to go back to his base if he wants to be re-elected?
Seems like the GOP is doing a good job of re-electing Obama.

Obama is anti american

HOW MUCH LONGER IS AMERICA GOING SUFFER UNDER FRAUD CLOWN:IMPEACH HIM

IMO, this borders on Treason.

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Apparently the Canadians thought the Tea Party is to blame for killing the pipeline

Probably east coasters. Ask anyone on the streets of Calgary and they can give you the price of a barrel of oil within $10. This pipeline is a major issue for us, we have three options now:

1. Fast-track pipeline to the ocean (which our PM Harper said is being torpedoed by US environmentalists)
2. Build more refineries and ship finished product
3. Stop/slow expansion of oil sands until pipeline infrastructure is expanded

obama might as well give the whitehouse keys to the chinese. it would be less painful to watch.

btw--this is part of the 'death by a thousand cuts ala cheese grater' that americans will experience under obama - higher energy prices for americans will be a result.

while i support new energy source research, the fact is that renewable energy is still way out on the horizon and so far the track record is pretty dismal. and clearly the venture capital acumen of the obama administration is on par with bernie madoff.

as i understand it, the obama admin wasn't really open to negotiations or compromise. the ogallalla aquifer is a big deal but that could have been mitigated.

anyway, nothing new here. the canadians are going to be*****ed as they should be - the us and canada have always been very good neighbors and (metaphorically speaking) basically obama just broke into the house raped the wife and stole the silver. some neighbor.

this is bad news canada....worse for US

This almost deserves a thread of its own:

Obama administration: Republicans killed Keystone pipeline

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/edi....

USA Toady, the Obama Administration's mouthpiece, "reported" this press release from one of Il Buffoon Di Cioccolata's minions.

You can't make this **** up.

As an aside, I'm going to have to change my tagline to Obama's latest Biden:

"But here's what I know: However many jobs might be generated by a Keystone pipeline, they're going to be a lot fewer than the jobs that are created by extending the payroll tax cut and extending unemployment insurance."

I couldn't believe that Il Buffoon Di Cioccolata actually said that, so I looked it up on Media "Lapping Obama's Balls Is All That" Matters, and sure enough, they have published a defense of The Won's idiocy:

Conservative Media Mock Obama For Pointing Out That Payroll Tax Cuts And Unemployment Benefits Will Create Jobs
http://mediamatters.org/research/2011120....

You can't make THAT **** up, either.

You know everyone is saying that this was killed by Obama because he is Chinese.

It would not surprise me in the least to find out that that is exactly what happened. He was told by the Chinese that he should kill this pipeline in exchange for huge campaign donations funneled to him through middlemen.

The administration is trapped in an ideological hatred of oil/carbon fuels. By not acknowledging that oil will remain the dominant source of energy for decades they will continue to prop up our enemies at our expense

This administration is schizophrenic. On the one hand, they are singlehandedly doing a fantastic job of keeping the price of gasoline high. On the other, they dole out trillions to the banksters to make up for the defaulted debts of people without jobs or who can't make ends meet after inflation and zero wage increases over a decade.

Something is going to give - either household costs need to decline so people can make their mortgage payments and stores can keep the lights on, or they won't keep it all together much longer.

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Serious question...."what leagal authority does he have to stop it"? I thought the executive could only sign new bills from the legislative, inforce laws on the books, and declare war.

86, he doesn't have the legal authority...but when has that ever stopped any recent president from exercising the power of a dictator. This is NOT our government...the government of the united States has been overthrown. PERIOD.

edit: Seriously...why not just ignore this piece of **** and build it anyway? What the **** is he going to do about it? Send in the military and prove to the world we're already in the midst of a revolution?

Not to mention they*****ed away billions on solar projects that have no chance what so ever of getting us off petroleum fuels.

And they totally reject thorium salt reactors, because it is nuclear.

Add it up, and as a Nation we are heading head long into poverty. We will literally starve when we get cut off from oil.

A few thoughts on this issue, imo Everything is not as hyperbolic as your comments would suggest.

1. Not having this pipeline does not kill American economy.

2. The Canadians are not too excited about building the pipeline thru British Columbia and hoping China will buy up their output.

3. The folks at State and WH are not total morons, all of your disapproval notwithstanding. These are people used to playing high stakes and historically (including the disastrous times in 1964-80, 2001-08) they have tended to play it quite well.

4. The pipeline is not permanently off. They just have to resubmit the application with the environmental issues addressed, and Congress has to **** off and stop setting arbitrary politically motivated deadlines. And believe you me that will come out during the election campaign season, and it will work in Obama's favor that he stood up to bullies and political gimmicks from Congress. Of course the Rightwingers who hate him will only get angrier when they hear it, but no one in their right mind thinks Obama is going to get their votes. He will be going after the independents and moderates, and driving the extremists crazy will perfectly suit his plan.

5. Obama should be more worried about the Solyndras they have bet the public's money on than the Keystone pipeline rejection imo.

6. "We will literally starve when we get cut off from oil." That is a true statement, but consider the likelihood of that occuring. Even without the pipeline we are bringing in the bitumen using trains and trucks (the Buffett insinuation is not too far off the mark.)

This is a complicated issue folks, and if you watch Obama (especially if you want him not to be reelected) you can see he uses Game Theory and not gut instinct. His people cooperate with a journalist writing a book about them in the WH, then disavow and criticize that book even though it is very favorable to Michelle Obama. Why? Bcos if they were quiet or favorable the Right would dismiss the book as puffery and lies and most independents and moderate would suspect that to be true and the book would never be read. If the WH instead acts all upset and nervous about the book, critics and skeptics will rush to buy it and BAM they will find out that Michelle is an ordinary middle class woman who landed in the WH suddenly and struggled to find her "voice" and role and that she has now and is a pretty decent first lady. People will wonder why the WH objected to this book's contentions and find themselves somehow liking the Obamas. No fuss no muss, job well done.

Do not watch the hand moving the shiny object, watch the other hand.

good post midwestman.

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Since you cannot have coal fired power plants according to the EPA to run electric cars, have not built thorium reactors, do you own a bicycle?

Sorry, that doesn't fly. Even those of us whose bike is our car need oil. Our inner tubes, tires, brake pads, and parts lubricants use petroleum products. Then of course our food (and whatever else we buy) is produced & transported the same way as the cagers' food (oil!), and we generally eat more of it. Any car-free bikey person that thinks they can do without oil is a complete imbecile.

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What would be frikken hilarious is if you built some more refineries, then sold the US gas. Ship it by truck. Lol.

It would be a good fu. I'd approve! And nope can't blame Canada one wit.

That would be fabulous.

For what it's worth I was in Toronto the last couple of days and read the coverage of this in the local paper and even heard some debate on the radio around it.

The tea party was never mentioned and republicans were not seen as the cause. My guess is they submit again soon with a different plan that is approved.