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User Info Andrew Breitbart dies at 43 in forum [FedUp]
Splashdown
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I turn 40 in two weeks...stories like these are damn sobering.

I'm no doctor, but I just can't believe that there isn't a method of screening for clogged arteries with some sort of radiological scan or an EKG. It seems that no one knows they have issues until they experience a heart attack or drop dead of one. They screen for breast cancer, colon cancer, why not heart related issues?
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They can.

The problem is that (1) you have to look to find, and the test costs a material amount of money (and finds a minuscule number of people at risk) and (2) not all sudden cardiac death incidents are tied to arterial blockage and thus cannot be found with those scans.

In other words, you're mortal -- deal with it.

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We've known since the Church Committee hearings in 1975 that the ability to "induce" heart attacks in a very nearly undetectable way is documented.

Not saying that's what happened here, of course. But I don't dismiss it out of hand in cases like these.

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"...But people better realize that the worst-case scenario could actually happen.9/11 happened. This can happen. An economic 9/11, the likes of which we've never seen." Gerald Celente
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Don't discount the natural causes so quick, though a Left Wing hit would not surprise me at all.

I am 58, ideal weight, eat healthy, run 5 miles a day. This past weekend I developed a Deep Vein Thrombosis that if not treated in a timely manner can kill you. All the docs in the emergency room could not believe I had one because of my history and fitness...things just happen.

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Ellie's Law-As an online discussion about the failures of the Obama Administration continues, the probability someone shouting "It's Bush's Fault" approaches 1
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Even though i didnt agree with him on everything and that is common with just about anybody,I did enjoy his firebrand style and he was fearless on many issues and i like that.

Shame 43,i turn 42 on the 19th and i stayed in great shape for most of my life so far and three years ago was diagnosed with heart palpitations they are sudden and not much i can do about them,,well i hope it was sudden for him,still kinda shocked though.

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Anyone who followed the Clinton presidency knows that people "die" for a lot of reasons. Hell, in Arkansas you can be found in a land fill with your head blown off and your wrists wired behind your back and it is still "natural".

Three letter agencies and russian spies have been doing offing people with natural causes for a more than a half century.

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Gene Ostrovsky, Anesthesiologist wrote..
So let’s review some science, shall we? Succinylcholine is a muscle relaxant. Anesthesiologists call it “sux”. Sux is commonly used before intubations, as it completely relaxes patients. Sux is a rapidly acting depolarizer that can be given intravenously (IV) or intramuscularly (IM). Once administered, succinylcholine circulates in the blood, reaches nicotinic receptors on the surface of muscle cells, and there it imitates the action of acetylcholine, a neurotransmitter that our nerves naturally release to make our muscles move. When succinylcholine is given, seconds later the patient fasciculates, and all muscles in his body become depolarized. In essence, sux makes every muscle twitch to the point that it becomes unresponsive to any subsequent stimulation: you can’t breathe, you can’t even blink.
Sux is highly effective. In IV form, 100 mg of sux will depolarize every muscle in the body of a 70kg man in about 20 seconds. And the patient will not be able to take another breath for at least 5 minutes. So without assisted ventilation, he is toast. The IM dose of sux is not much different, but takes a little longer to set in.
So there you have it: succinylcholine is an easy to inject poison, it is highly effective, and is guaranteed-to-work quick.
The fourth characteristic of succinylcholine is good news for assassins: sux is almost impossible to detect because its metabolites are all naturally occurring molecules. here’s how it works. Most molecules of succinylcholine break down in blood into succinylmonocholine and choline, thanks to a circulating enzyme called pseudocholinesterase. The process is so efficient that only a small fraction of sux molecules that were given actually reach neuromuscular junctions in the first place. Succinylmonocholine is subsequently hydrolyzed into succinic acid, or succinate, a naturally occurring substance well known to anyone who studied biochemistry.

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"...But people better realize that the worst-case scenario could actually happen.9/11 happened. This can happen. An economic 9/11, the likes of which we've never seen." Gerald Celente
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He was obviously terminated for his blatant domestic terrorism. Completely legal assassination.

Keep that in mind before speaking out against your masters, peasants!

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In 2009 at the age of 42, I had a blood clot go from my leg, through my heart and into my lung (embolism). Doc said 80% of the time it’s a widow maker (spent 6 days in the cardiac ward). A tip for all those who spend a lot of time in front of the screen, get up and walk around every 1/2 hour or so and make sure you don't get dehydrated during the day. Blood can "pool" in your legs and turn into clots if you have "thicker" than average blood.
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This is his CPAC speech ... a must see:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlic....

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In his 16 minute speech he discloses he had dinner with the Ayers recently. My jaw dropped.

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Jotapay wrote..
Completely legal under the new NDAA.
Interesting point.

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"2) not all sudden cardiac death incidents are tied to arterial blockage and thus cannot be found with those scans."

Yep. Sometimes you get a tear in a heart blood vessel, your body attempts fix-a-flat with cholesterol, it plugs up and/or the clot and cholesterol break loose and your heart stops.

This can happen in minutes and it's why they suggest aspirin to thin the blood and get that clot moving.

If you had an angiogram done the prior week you would find nothing.

Sometimes, people just die.

"Breitbart was taking a little walk and collapsed"

At midnight?

Oh, definitely then. Just like cats and dogs who wander off, alone, to die, humans go for spontaneous walks alone to attempt to escape the impending dread and doom. I, myself, did exactly this after my MI and wisely called 9-11. Subconciously trying to walk away from the trouble, or to sooth themselves, or to escape. Note my anecdotes of men going off to bed 'to rest after not feeling well'. IOW, wandering off, alone, to die, alone. Just like your pets do.

Don't worry about this, btw. It is an absolutely peaceful and painless way to go. You simple instantaneously black out and hit the ground.

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He had heart problems last year, according to his father-in-law, Orson Bean. Perhaps he just didn't win the genetic lottery...

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I know I was probably the most scared about my health from 40 to 45. I had this irrational fear of "this is when most guys just fall over dead."

Flap

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Actually, instances of brain aneurysms rupturing peak somewhere around middle age. I am assuming the same is so with other blood vessel ruptures (aorta, abdominal, etc). It's all about the circulation in the end. The timing is disturbing though.
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Quote:
Cirrus: In 2009 at the age of 42, I had a blood clot go from my leg, through my heart and into my lung (embolism). Doc said 80% of the time it’s a widow maker (spent 6 days in the cardiac ward). A tip for all those who spend a lot of time in front of the screen, get up and walk around every 1/2 hour or so and make sure you don't get dehydrated during the day. Blood can "pool" in your legs and turn into clots if you have "thicker" than average blood.
Cirrus


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Unforeseen Cardiac issues are not entirely unheard of at that age.
Case in point:
I had a series of "mini-tacks" at 41, and thought it was simply indigestion and/or esophogeal issues from a recent bout of food poisoning on a business trip. The actual cause turned out to be a 90% occluded RCA discovered during angio later.
More recently, I had a major heart attack just 2 months ago at 48, despite having had a "full cardiac work-up" and being given a fairly clean bill of health in December-09 prior to a scheduled hip & knee surgery.

All that said though... I find the timing of AB's death to be highly suspect, given the news conference scheduled for today in AZ. Yes, it is "possible" that his death from "natural causes" at this particlar point in time is entirely coincidental, but it stinks of dead fish in my book.

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Over on Business Insider one of his friends posted their twits from last night a few hours before he died.

His friend was thinking about unfollowing Andrew because of all the hate from the Progressives. Andrew said, “You’ll be missing out on quite the upcoming fireworks show. There’s tons of unreal high-level action & intrigue ahead.”

I suspect someone like Andrew had his bases covered just in case something like this happens. I look forward to what he was referencing.

I would not recommend reading the comments because the Progressives are in overdrive being uncouth, rude, obnoxious, and hateful...as expected.


http://www.businessinsider.com/our-final....

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In all of history, no government became more honest, less corrupt, or granted its citizens more rights as it grew in size. E.L. 2011

Ellie's Law-As an online discussion about the failures of the Obama Administration continues, the probability someone shouting "It's Bush's Fault" approaches 1
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Sad news...back in 2006 when I lived about 5 mins from Google HQ in Mtn. View I sent a tip into Drudge about the then new Street View snapping pics in our hood...got a call back from Andrew later that day who followed up with me on the story, seemed like a really dedicated guy.

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Yes, there are tons of mean comments out there on twitter, websites, etc. Doubt that hate speech will get much MSM coverage or condemnation from the White House.

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Go check the /r/politics subreddit if you want to see a bunch of brainless automatons vomiting a bunch of herp derp.
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Flaps wrote..
Anyone who followed the Clinton presidency knows that people "die" for a lot of reasons. Hell, in Arkansas you can be found in a land fill with your head blown off and your wrists wired behind your back and it is still "natural".


Well to be fair, it is the natural state...
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It is absolutely sick that my liberal friends are cheering his death on facebook.


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