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Zarathustra
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Let's party like it's 1999....


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Come on Zara, how can you post something like this without the rally monkey????

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Zarathustra
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Arpwatch
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Best, rally monkey, ever.
Zarathustra
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I hope you all know that I am just as frustrated with this bull****, but I always try to find humor in everything. Rally on, bitches....

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speaking of 1999... GE!
Jfedak
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Settle down there Beavis, no 14xx print yet.

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^ Well, the SPR manipulation will pop the Transports which...
Jubber
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Europe Red to Green ... sigh JPM "China to have a hard landing" ignored

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Zarathustra
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1403 a few moments ago.

Ladies And Gentlemen, We Are Floating In Space....


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I still see 1450 S&P before any potential correction. I was also going to start a "When does BB throw bucky under the bus to prop equities" thread, but...meh. I think we all know the answer.

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Mayorquimby
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**** it - make it 1,700. Clearly they won't stop adding liquidity until unemployment is below 7%.

Asshats. I hope we megaphone up to 1700 and then down to 450.

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Zarathustra
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Push the dollar up, let OIL come down--keep equities elevated

Let the dollar fall--jawbone OIL with the SPR--keep equities elevated

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Zara-

OR...Ride that Monkey all the way to moon!!!! Roll that beautiful monkey footage...

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"Winter is coming." -Motto of House Stark
"Mo'lon La'be"- Leonidas
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general" - Mark Rippetoe
"Its like Calvinball."-MarvinMartian
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10% away from all time SPX high. So...say....2-4 months away?

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"You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else."
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Early_retirement, 3-4 weeks more like it.
Antone
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This bitch ain't quitin' till SPX 2K.

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As if anything has changed:

Wir sind gefickt.
Magus
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PE ratio now (both trailing and forward) is a lot more "normal" than in 1999. The fed is going to print...stocks are a decent hedge (although I do think we are due for a correction at some point soon)

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"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as a result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved."

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Mayorquimby
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Stocks are a crummy hedge. Look....let's say you have $75,000 to invest. You even know how to hedge and make the best trades turning that $75,000 into $110,000. Huge return there. You cash out at just the right moment. You pocketed $35,000 minus cap gains. So you basically walk away $30,000 richer.

Then what? What will $30,000 do for ya? Bupkis. That's what. Because the price of an apartment in NYC went up $60,000 in the same time period.

And even if you made a couple hundred grand, anything you buy is inflated and them deflates later on.

Nobody wins when bubbles burst. Those who play along win so long as the bubble is bubbling. But it ends and unless you were playing options and really taking on huge risk, it's not a winning strategy at all.

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Mayorquimby
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As for PE, it's not as bad as 1999 but is waaaaaay up there vs. any other time period in the past hundred years.

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Eaglewwit
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Most organic rally I have ever seen. Based on nothing but fundamentals. Stocks are the only investment for retirement.
Magus
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Mayor---why do you say that? Forward P/E for S&P is about 16-18, which is right in line with historical trends. Sure, companies like Amazon are off the charts but others like MSFT are trading at like 11x next year's earnings

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"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as a result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved."

-~~Ludwig V
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Eaglewwit
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I love all those who use forward earnings. All it is is WS's guess. And don't forget we are earnings are at record levels. That which goes up must come down, but that was before The Bernank took charge.

Argos
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David Kelly, Chief Market Strategist for J.P. Morgan Funds, just claimed on BB Radio that he doesn't have an end-of-year target for equities because no-one knows where the markets are going to be at the end of the year.

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