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Lplate
Posts: 4737
Incept: 2008-08-06
Australia
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ZH: Quote:Floodgates Open As Four More Spanish Regions Seek Bailout; German Nürburgring Faces Bankruptcy http://www.zerohedge.com/news/floodgates.... 07/22/2012
Castilla-La-Mancha, Murcia, the Canary Islands and possibly Andalusia are also having difficulty funding themselves and some of these regions are studying plans to tap the recently created emergency-loan fund that Valencia said it would use yesterday, the newspaper said, without citing anyone."...
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Jubber
Posts: 13936
Incept: 2007-07-05
UK
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Euro opening a lot lower on the early quotes, threatening sub 1:21, would expect some support later, otherwise the indexes could **** out on the open...
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“The problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other people’s money.” Thatcher
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Asimov
Posts: 103849
Incept: 2007-08-26
East Tennessee Eastern Time
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Good. I held short eur/usd.
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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity. If you trade based on what other people say, you will lose money. Especially what I say. I won't be held responsible. Festina lente.
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Pokerplayer
Posts: 183
Incept: 2012-05-29
U.S.
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2nd day in a row another Spanish bond market crash...
Spain 10YR + 23 bps to new record 7.5%
Spain 2YR + 47 bps to 6.23%
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Stonedog
Posts: 2080
Incept: 2008-05-29
New Jersey
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Emergency - Somebody get the rally monkey on the phone quick!
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"I would characterize my professional disdain as more of a professional contempt for their [Central Banker, Banker and politician] economic and financial policies, priorities, presumptions and prescriptions." - Lauren Lyster on Capital Account for Friday June 16, 2012
"All the stimulus, the bailouts, the quantit
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Lplate
Posts: 4737
Incept: 2008-08-06
Australia
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ZH: Quote: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/spain-foll....
SPAIN STOCK MARKET REGULATOR BANS SHORT SELLING SPAIN'S SHORT SELLING BAN INCLUDES DERIVATIVES, OTC INSTRUMENTS SPAIN'S SHORT SELLING BAN COULD BE EXTENDED BEYOND 3 MONTHS
Reason: removed tweet
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Lplate
Posts: 4737
Incept: 2008-08-06
Australia
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Crossthread
Posts: 4539
Incept: 2007-09-04
Wilmington, NC
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The yield, or interest rate, on 10-year Spanish government bonds hit 7.5 percent Monday before retreating, having breached 7 percent on Thursday — a level that many analysts fear could eventually shut Spain out of public markets and force it to seek a Greek-style bailout.
The concern, though, is that Europe would be hard-pressed to find the money to salvage an economy the size of Spain’s — the euro zone’s fourth largest after Germany, France and Italy.
Spain completed its third consecutive quarter of recession in June, according to data published Monday by the Bank of Spain. The economy contracted by 0.4 percent from the previous quarter.
Stocks in Europe followed Asian markets sharply lower Monday — by more than 2 percent — and the euro hit a new two-year low against the dollar of just under $1.21. Wall Street seemed likely to skid at the opening too, with Dow Jones industrial average futures and the broader Standard & Poor’s 500 futures down 1 percent.
Helping stoke the turmoil, representatives from the trio of big lenders to Greece are set to arrive in Athens on Tuesday to examine that country’s progress on meeting the terms of its bailout program. There are growing concerns that Greece will not be able to live up to its commitments and that as soon as September the so-called troika of lenders will refuse to dispense more money. Last Friday, the European Central Bank said it was suspending loans to Greek banks, pending the troika’s report.
The financial market pressure is reviving tensions between Spain and its European counterparts, amid growing calls from the government in Madrid for the European Central Bank to buy Spanish debt and help temper the country’s borrowing costs.
José Manuel García-Margallo, Spain’s foreign minister, said during the weekend that the E.C.B. was acting as “a clandestine bank that is not doing anything for the debt.” The minister urged the E.C.B. to deliver a decisive blow against investors “who have placed short-term bets, a bet against the euro.”
On Monday, however, Luis de Guindos, the economy minister, insisted that Spain would “of course” not seek a full bailout, having already requested up to €100 billion, or $122 billion, in European rescue money for its troubled banks. Just last Friday, euro zone finance ministers agreed to release an initial €30 billion of that loan, although that has evidently not been enough to appease the financial markets.
Before addressing lawmakers, Mr. de Guindos said that “the stance of the markets is irrational, extremely nervous and cannot be addressed by European governments.”
Meanwhile, a handful of regional governments are expected to follow the example of Valencia, which said Friday that it would be the first region tap into a new Spanish government fund to meet its debt-refinancing obligations, as well to as pay suppliers of health care and other basic services.
The government of the Murcia region said Sunday night that it continued studying whether to apply for aid from that same fund.
Officials in Madrid have been at pains to stress that the request by Valencia was precisely the sort of call for help that the regional assistance fund was set up earlier this month to address. The fund was created to help suffering regions and is to have €18 billion in capital, partly guaranteed by a loan from the state lottery company.
Still, Spain’s regions are struggling with a combined €35 billion in debt that is maturing this year. They are reaping the bitter harvest of a decade of ambitious but often unchecked spending on infrastructure and services, including unprofitable television stations and deserted airports.
The central government’s own deficit-cutting plans have fallen behind schedule, as a deepening recession has eroded tax receipts.
To counter this, Parliament on Friday approved a new austerity-budget package worth €65 billion that had been presented by Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy a week earlier. The package includes a controversial increase in the sales tax, as well as the removal of a Christmas bonus salary payment for civil servants that has triggered daily protests and road blockades in Madrid and other cities.
Spain’s budgetary and economic woes have also begun to overshadow its banking crisis. On Friday, euro zone finance ministers agreed on an interim payment for Spain’s troubled banking sector of €30 billion, a day after the German Parliament signed off on the rescue package. Spain is yet to announce how much of the €100 billion of available banking funds it will request, and how that money will be distributed. Bankia, the giant lender whose demise prompted Spain to seek help, has itself estimated its overall bailout cost at €23.5 billion.
Last week, Cristóbal Montoro, the budget minister, forecast that Spain’s economy would shrink 0.5 percent next year, compared with a previous forecast of 0.2 percent in growth.
While Spain is the current focus of market concerns, investors are also worried that Italy, wrestling with its own debt problems, and the specter of an economic collapse in its autonomous region of Sicily, will be back in the spotlight soon. Its 10-year yield was up 0.28 percentage point, in midday trading in Europe, at 6.35 percent.
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“Cognitive Co-Dependency” is when a normal rational person, internalizes irrational illogical presentations, and somehow reconciles them to fit their scripted indoctrination of logical analysis.Quote:Samuel L. Clemens:There is NO Native Criminal Class; EXCEPT for CONgress
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Frat
Posts: 1934
Incept: 2009-07-15
NKY
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Amateur/novice over here... I've got a financial n00b question/observation over here....
I've noticed it's usually a bad thing, or an act of desperation whenever a govt "bans short-selling" of their market. What's the meaning behind this, and IS it usually a last, desperate act when it happens?
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We're ****ed. Where's Henry Bowman when you need him?
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Pika-steph
Posts: 54694
Incept: 2007-09-11
Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775
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Usually. It was an utter disaster for the banks when short selling of banks was banned back in 2008/2009.
It pulls liquidity and is usually the precursor to no-bid situations.
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Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org/ "The only regulation that really works is failure."--Rick Santelli
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Rvacha
Posts: 8295
Incept: 2008-10-03
Cleveland
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/finan....Quote:The Spanish newspaper El Confidencial reported sources close to premier Mariano Rajoy complaining bitterly that the crisis engulfing Spain was a “failure of the whole European Project and the incompetence of its leaders”. There is deep shock in government circles that the €65bn austerity package passed by the Spanish parliament last week amid bitter protests across the country – and imposed by the EU – has failed to make any difference. El Confidencial said the Rajoy team was thinking of “putting on the table” a possible withdrawal from the euro, a dramatic escalation in the game of brinkmanship between the eurozone’s Latin bloc and German-led creditor core. All from the Greek playbook, accelerated....
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"I suggest you panic." - Hugh Hendry
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If
Posts: 1193
Incept: 2008-01-06
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65 billion euros has made no difference! Did I read that right? Is it because all that money is just going right back to the banks as interest payments?
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I finally took the red pill. I have a lot of catching up to do. Please excuse my ignorance.
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Nuke_engineer
Posts: 2698
Incept: 2007-08-19
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By the time we get to the fourth of fifth country in crisis the Greece Playbook re-run ought to play out so fast the whole story to date will happen in less than a week!
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Trading and investing is understanding about people, emotions and corruption of government, corporations, banks and people using propaganda, lies, mathematics and bankster logic working against you.
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Lplate
Posts: 4737
Incept: 2008-08-06
Australia
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Lplate
Posts: 4737
Incept: 2008-08-06
Australia
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If
Posts: 1193
Incept: 2008-01-06
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Someone hitting the panic button?
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I finally took the red pill. I have a lot of catching up to do. Please excuse my ignorance.
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Krs
Posts: 685
Incept: 2009-05-07
Colleyville, Texas
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Which elements, which deal?
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Fog, smoke, and mirrors... perhaps those tin-foil-hat wearing digital dickweeds were on to something? Tyler Durden on the Fed – Feb 28, 2013
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Krs
Posts: 685
Incept: 2009-05-07
Colleyville, Texas
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http://www.benzinga.com/analyst-ratings/....3 and 6 month bonds Quote:Spain auctioned bonds of both the 3- and 6-month maturity Tuesday. Spain sold 1.628 billion euros of 3-month Letras (the name for the bills) at 2.434 percent, higher than the previous auction's yield of 2.362 percent. The bid-to-cover of the 3-month Letras rose to 2.94 from 2.6. Spain also auctioned 1.46 billion euros of 6-month Letras at yields of 3.691 percent from 3.237 percent at the last auction and also with a stronger bid-to-cover ratio of 3.02 vs. 2.82. 5 Vs 10 Year Quote:The benchmark 10-year bond yield rose as high as 7.625 percent, a euro-era record for Spanish bonds. Further, 5-year bonds rose as high as 7.649 percent and traded above the 10-year bond as of writing. The inversion of the Spanish yield curve on the long end is interesting; yield curve inversion has historically signaled that a country is about to enter recession. However, Spain is already in a recession and debt markets are being skewed by fear.
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Fog, smoke, and mirrors... perhaps those tin-foil-hat wearing digital dickweeds were on to something? Tyler Durden on the Fed – Feb 28, 2013
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Antone
Posts: 7659
Incept: 2008-02-03
Seditionia, USSA
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10 yr: 7.74% 5 yr: 7.77% 2 yr: 7.11%
Yield inversion is getting extreme. How long before we see an 8 handle on one of the durations?
Edit: also, looks like we'll need an Italy thread soon.
10 yr: 6.71% 5 yr: 6.48% 2 yr: 5.20%
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As if anything has changed:
Wir sind gefickt.
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Krs
Posts: 685
Incept: 2009-05-07
Colleyville, Texas
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Might as well book a reservation for France as well.
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Fog, smoke, and mirrors... perhaps those tin-foil-hat wearing digital dickweeds were on to something? Tyler Durden on the Fed – Feb 28, 2013
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Jubber
Posts: 13936
Incept: 2007-07-05
UK
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Got Gold?
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“The problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other people’s money.” Thatcher
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Avianphlu
Posts: 3910
Incept: 2008-12-03
Ulster NY
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as a matter of fact...yes I do
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Antone
Posts: 7659
Incept: 2008-02-03
Seditionia, USSA
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Looks like my post marked the top in Spanish & Italian bond yields. They have been getting bought HARD ever since.
Spain:
10 yr: 7.38% 5 yr: 7.20% 2 yr: 6.42%
Italy:
10 yr: 6.45% 5 yr: 6.12% 2 yr: 4.94%
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As if anything has changed:
Wir sind gefickt.
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Henri
Posts: 191
Incept: 2007-09-23
europe
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@Antone -- yeah, and no news motivating the rush that I can find... another attempt at ECB to try to quench the Bondzillas currently roaming Europe, no doubt. Their ammo must be wearing thin.
There was this thing about the recent Buiter comments on Grexit having a 90% chance to happen, thus leaving Spain/Portugal saved by EU -- doesn't seem like it would excite market participants to move the yields so much. Intervention it is.
Impressive move in any case. And surprisingly, affecting all euro-area countries.
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Henri
Posts: 191
Incept: 2007-09-23
europe
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So the drop is obviously linked to the Draghi speech, like the jump on the EUR and the spectacular euro stock market rally. Curiously, bond yields started to seriously tank in the wee hours of the morning here (8 am GMT) -- a few hours before Draghi spoke (11 something am). Did someone know something?
Look at today's move in the 10 year yield of any of the PIIGS countries bonds, and superimpose the stock index of that same country, you'll see the 3-hour delayed reaction. Just sayin'...
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