http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/20....

Wow. Cops stop 19 cars, detain and handcuff the adults for hours and search the cars based on a tip somebody robbed a bank. The peasants have no rights when it comes to protecting a TBTF bank! All the good little sheep lined up and let their rights be trampled too.

Guilty until proven even more guilty

Too bad this didn't happen in Indiana...maybe there would be a few less pigs roaming the streets robbing the citizens...

LOL And EVERY one of these sheeple agreed to let the cops search their cars.

Serves 'em right... If they aren't willing to stand up for their own rights then **** 'em.

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LOL And EVERY one of these sheeple agreed to let the cops search their cars.

Serves 'em right... If they aren't willing to stand up for their own rights then **** 'em.

I read a gun forum on a regular basis that has a lot of leos. We had a big thread about car searches and a lot of LEO's chimed in. Everyone of them said if you refuse a search we will find a reason to search your car without consent and probably "find" something to charge you with for their trouble. Most people get this and decide that it's more profitable just to get the government******over with.

I wonder what would have happened if you started filming this (as you were being handcuffed) and asking the right questions? Bye bye camera for sure.

They hate us for our freedoms, indeed.

Absurd. They had people stuck there for 2 hours and didn't find the perp (*ahem*) until the LAST car! Meanwhile, the perps were sitting there with 2 loaded "high powered" hand guns.

What an epic cluster F!!!! Every one of those barricaded motorists was in danger for 2 hours. Everybody involved here should be fired.

A bank robber isn't exactly a "big fish" anyway these days.

Yeah, what is the fascination with catching those that rob the bank by way of the front door instead of the one in the back?

Epic. So they apprehended a criminal after violating the rights of 20 adults.

I understand the logic they applied, but it was a bank robber. So friggin what? For decades we've all been instructed to just go along with assault, robbery - even rape, because "they'll leave you alone after that" (never mind that any scrap of dignity will be in the toilet). BTW, that might have passed for the truth in the 70's but now killing some whitey while they grovel is a right of passage.

My point is there was no one bleeding on the ground after the robbery, oh and from a bank likely to have been corn holing the tax payer dry.

So you block the road for five minutes. Apologize profusely. Weed out the geezers with coke bottle glasses and soccer moms - for their own safety as much as common sense - and let them go while someone goes to the bank and looks at the friggin tape or gets a physical description.

No cuffs, no need to get anyone out of their car. What's the guy going to do, eat the ****ing money and gun?

As for this?

redwolf wrote..

Everyone of them said if you refuse a search we will find a reason to search your car without consent and probably "find" something to charge you with for their trouble

**** that. So they're admitting that they'll plant evidence in order to bully me into compliance? Karl just wrote an epic ticker on police behavior and it sums things up nicely.

There is usually random empty brass in my car. Hell, it's like beach sand. It gets everywhere. It's not illegal, nor is the .45 on my hip.

Go get your warrant *******. You'll be dicking with me while the actual criminal is still sitting in his car, and later on you'll be all sore at me because I distracted you from your actual arrest.

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Everyone of them said if you refuse a search we will find a reason to search your car without consent and probably "find" something to charge you with for their trouble

There is no doubt in my mind that they can find something via the "second set of books". Whatever the case may be, I'm going to make them earn their doughnut.

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It's not illegal, nor is the .45 on my hip.

it is in Massachusetts if you don't have a government sanctioned permit to carry arms. If your non-licensed wife were to drive a car in Mass, it's an automatic felony if they find empty brass in the car.

I have to be really careful with letting my girlfriend drive my car. she lives in RI which is more "normal", but works in Mass, which is assinine.

Empty brass counts as ammunition which requires a license to possess.

^ cringe, just empty brass? Is it considered a component and punished the same as ammo?

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Empty brass counts as ammunition which requires a license to possess.

Uhm... Huh?

Redwolf wrote..

. . . if you refuse a search we will find a reason to search your car without consent and probably "find" something to charge you with for their trouble.

Yep. Been there, experienced that.

I was driving cross-country and a cop decided he wanted to search the car (nice, shiny car, out-of-state plates, I was alone and had several days' beard, sorta scruffy-looking), so he stopped me for speeding (67 in a 65 zone is what he claimed. GPS and cruise control indicated I was dead-on 65.). He made it abundantly clear (without explicitly saying so) that if I didn't consent, he'd plant some stuff that would make me regret not having "voluntarily" consented to the search.

He was so*****ed that he didn't find anything that I was concerned that he'd plant something anyway, just because.

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Empty brass counts as ammunition which requires a license to possess.

And you live there why?

You're friggin kidding me, right? I'll give you a pile of brass. Come at me with it and see how your afternoon goes.

So as not to be miss internet-terpreted: That's not really a throw down, just making a point.

Oh and if they are planting evidence, doesn't that mean they are in possession of a controlled substance? Isn't any evidence seized in an arrest supposed to go directly from the arrest scene to an evidence locker with proper chain of command?

Or maybe he'll just plant a Ron Paul bumper sticker and go from there.

I love where I live, and the people who live here. I simply have to strive to change the system I still believe in.

From the following link:
http://www.malegislature.gov/Laws/Genera....

“Ammunition”, cartridges or cartridge cases, primers (igniter), bullets or propellant powder designed for use in any firearm, rifle or shotgun. The term “ammunition” shall also mean tear gas cartridges, chemical mace or any device or instrument which contains or emits a liquid, gas, powder or any other substance designed to incapacitate.

I **** you not.

Flaps, I know it was a point, but it's a point of technicality that can **** over my girlfriend if I'm not careful. It's counterintuitive, but it's the law here. One spent .22 in my car could earn her a felony if I'm not with her.

Flaps10 wrote..

. . . doesn't that mean they are in possession of a controlled substance?

Of course they are. Lotsa luck finding an honest cop willing to arrest or turn them in for it.

And, of course, chances are close to zero that the cop loses a "cop said, civilian said" type of court case.

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**** that. So they're admitting that they'll plant evidence in order to bully me into compliance? Karl just wrote an epic ticker on police behavior and it sums things up nicely.

They never admit to planting evidence, but they're quite proud of how effective they are at finding some bull**** excuse to arrest or ticket you if you don't obey. They bragged about how awesome they are at finding "lawful" ways to **** you over (I'm sure some of that involves planting something, but who knows who frequently they do that). Most of the non leo gun owners on the forum now have a very low view of the cops simply from that set of posts alone.

Let me guess, those are the good cops too. At least they think they are.

The reality is, as mentioned before, the Law is whatever they say it is when they say it. Object? Call bull****? They just kill you.

Then they get medals and vacation while the rest of the public union leeches give them slaps on the ass and high fives for a job well done.

And Those are the good cops people love.

PS Redwolf, what forum ?

Red Wolf wrote: "I read a gun forum on a regular basis that has a lot of leos."

Is that forum ARFCOM (ar15.com) by any chance? If so most of the cops over there are statist thugs -- and I suspect their views represent the majority of LEOs. And scary -- most of them even think the beating death of Kelly Thomas was A-OK.

There was a case in New Orleans not long ago where a cop planted evidence, and another cop turned him in. Don't have time to find the link right now.

Let's not forget that George Zimmerman turned a cop's son who had beaten up a homeless man before the event with Trayvon occurred. GZ was taking his last course in law enforcement/criminal justice so that he could become a cop at the time of the shooting.

From http://www.9news.com/comments/270601/0/B....

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Shannon Rucci Vance · Denver, Colorado
I applaud the men and women of the Aurora Police Department for their courageous work EVERYDAY. Saturday they peacefully ended what could have been a fatal catastrophe. No one was hurt. No one was injured. And a suspect with implicating evidence was taken into custody. While all of you who are quick to criticize those to who put their lives on the line everyday are goin to find fault in any situation. Remember you are the first to call the police for help when YOU are in danger and those brave men and women respond without bias. How about a round of applause instead of finger pointing? What do YOU do to make the world a better, safer place?

Shannon Rucci Vance deserves a giant cock in her mouth to shut her ***** mouth up

Yea clearly if you are driving around minding your own business this is necessary

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Andrea Ta
Where does it say that they handcuffed someone? As far as searching cars in the area is concerned, I think probable cause is justified. In my opinion, IF anyone was mad that they got searched, then they most likely had something to hide. Hope they catch this crook!

Andrea Ta needs cement in her vag too for being a flippin idiot