PDF link to the ruling

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11p....

So basically they say that the Arizona law is unconstitutional because federal laws are already doing the job... and the states can't do it if the feds are already ``doing it``...

Except the feds won't enforce the damn laws.

Anyway, they uphold at least part of the law.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/2....

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The Supreme Court upheld a key part of Arizona's crackdown on illegal immigrants on Monday, rejecting the Obama administration's stance that only the U.S. government should enforce immigration laws in the United States.

The nation's highest court, in an opinion by Justice Anthony Kennedy, upheld the state law's most controversial aspect, requiring police officers to check the immigration status of people they stop.

Thing is, will that be used as a precedent for checkpoints across the US? Some people have argued that was the plan...

Start on Page 30 for Justice Scalia's Opinion.

Whoo....talk talk about a bitch-slap to the Federal Government. One of his more scathing writings for certain. Also an outstanding historical look at Federalism and sovereignty.

Thomas and Alito also put in a good dose of dissent.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/....

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Federal officials said the program known as 287(g) would be immediately rescinded in Arizona. That program was a partnership between federal and local governments, and allowed local authorities to make immigration-based arrests.

Officials also said Immigration and Customs Enforcement will be selective in responding to the expected increase in calls from Arizona and other police agencies about immigration status of people they pull over. Officials said ICE will not respond to the scene unless the person in question meets certain criteria -- such as being wanted for a felony.

Sounds like AZ should just tell the feds to **** off and do what they want...what are the pieces of **** in DC going to do...invade them?!

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Sounds like AZ should just tell the feds to **** off and do what they want...what are the pieces of **** in DC going to do...invade them?!

Withhold federal funds. You know, the federal taxes that AZ residents pay in to the fed gov (or the fed gov borrowing they're obligated to pay for) but then won't get back out?

****ers!

That was the same dilemma for any state or local govs not taking stimulus funds. The residents are on the hook for the spending but get no benefit.

Can AZ sue the federal government for not enforcing the existing law? Or more specifically, intentionally turning a blind eye?

No. The analysis from the MSM today isn't getting at the meaning of the opinion. The ruling is that federal policy trumps any conflicting state law or policy on immigration. The only reason that the status check was allowed to stand is that it didn't clearly violate federal immigration policy. Obama or INS or DOJ or Congress could make that clear tomorrow and the states would have no recourse according to today's ruling.

In Scalia's dissent, he states very clearly that there is no conflict. AZ's law only sought to enforce the federal law, not usurp it.

IMO AZ should go ahead and ship those illegals back on its own, and ignore SCOTUS/POTUS/USC entirely. They are NOT living up to their part of the bargain that is the USofA. Once broken by the feds, that contract is null and void.

Next, if the State of AZ won't secure its own borders, then it falls to the people of AZ, and if I was a resident there, I'd start by cleaning out my own government.

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Withhold federal funds. You know, the federal taxes that AZ residents pay in to the fed gov (or the fed gov borrowing they're obligated to pay for) but then won't get back out?

****ers!

That was the same dilemma for any state or local govs not taking stimulus funds. The residents are on the hook for the spending but get no benefit.

+50 to those last two sentences...

Flap

Looks to me like Arizona can determine if someone is an illegal alien, but cannot deport them, only inform ICE, and then let them go. The feds will do nothing. Obama needs the votes.
If Hawaii can ship homeless people back to the states, why can’t Sheriff Joe send the illegal’s to Washington DC?
I’d chip in for bus fare.

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If Hawaii can ship homeless people back to the states, why can’t Sheriff Joe send the illegals to Washington DC?

I like that plan! We need a state with some guts to start doing that!!!

Mark Levin whos legal foundation argued the case (as well as health care) is on right now n wabc. And will podcast at his site Marklevinshow.com Not a happy camper

Some callers on Mark Levin's show with good points regarding this decision:
There is a federal minimum wage law, so states can't have their own???
There are federal drug laws, so states can't make their own???

What an absolute joke. Unites States Supremely Clownish Court now more political than ever.

I love the idea of shipping them to DC and dumping them on the steps of the capital. Too bad the state can't afford it...........

The Governor was interviewed last night and was told by homeland security that they will no longer take calls from AZ police in picking up illegals. Time to succeed..............

To push the dagger in further: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012.....

DHS suspends enforcement agreements with Arizona police, along with suspending 287(g).
From Wikipedia:

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Section 287(g) authorizes the Federal Government to enter into agreements with state and local law enforcement agencies, permitting designated officers to perform immigration law enforcement functions, pursuant to a memorandum of agreement, provided that the local law enforcement officers receive appropriate training and function under the supervision of sworn U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers. Under 287(g), with federal approval and training, ICE provides state and local law enforcement officers with the training and authorization to identify, process, and--when appropriate--detain immigration offenders they encounter during their regular, daily law-enforcement activity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/287g

I have the same question as Flaps: Is it possible for the State of Arizona to sue the federal government for failure to adequately enforce immigration laws, as "contracted" for in the U.S. Constitution?

Tell me, why do I need to present a passport or go through TSA when traveling to and from Mexico?

All this legal rangling and manipulation just reinforces my beliefs that have remained constant for the last 10 years. The government is actively promoting defacto amnesty by refusing to enforce the Federal immigration laws and punishing the states that make an attempt to defend their citizens from the illegal invaders who have turned Phoenix into the 2nd largest kidnapping capital in the world - just behind Mexico City. Point in fact - the Feds are suing states that attempt enforce the immigration laws that the Feds ignore - yet the Feds have not sued even ONE of dozens of official sanctuary cities - all of which have shown open and active defiance of our Federal immigration laws.

The writing is all over the wall. It's obvious what they are doing - and they are succeeding. Eventually it will result in full-blown amnesty - in defiance of the will or consent of the large majority of the American citizens. The long-term goal is to merge America with the third world - and it will be our burden to elevate them economically to our level like West Germany had to do with the East - except on a much grander scale. This is already happening and it will result in our standard of life continuing to fall.

It is what it is.

AZ needs to pass a simple law. Since the Fed Gov has officially said they no longer represent them, or work for them, then simply pass a law that makes ALL Arizona citizens no longer responsible for Fed Income taxes, and convert it to a local state tax. NOTHING to be remitted to the pieces of **** in DC. What will the feds do? Sue them? Tell them to **** off. What else? Invade them? LOL!

Mpilar,
Yep.

Yes, Mpilar, that envelope should be pushed by AZ!