Yes, tyranny is here and now.

Good Lord, listening to Obama right now is like listening to a movie. I can't believe it's real.

Pika-steph wrote..

Those four Justices have just fairly warned everyone.

But it doesn't matter. Taxes override other clauses. Right now its just the commerce and necessary and proper clause. But do you seriously think that it is just limited to _those_

You wanna buy a bridge?!?

Frogs are happily swimming in the pot. Temp is 135F and climbing....

Has anyone read the dissent yet?!!

Justices With An Understanding Of Enumerated Powers wrote..

One might argue that it regulates that failure by requiring it to be accompanied by payment of a penalty. But that failure—that abstention from commerce—is not “Commerce.” To be sure, purchasing insurance is ”Commerce”; but one does not regulate commerce that does not exist by compelling its existence.

I'm about half way though here...and I'm getting the distinct feeling all 4 of these guys need to be put on suicide watch. This is less a 'dissent' than it is a funeral dirge for the demise of the Constitution and elimination of the structure of the Republic as it pertains to enumerated powers.

Tallystick wrote..

Frogs are happily swimming in the pot. Temp is 135F and climbing....

Close but no. The temperature is 210. And they are celebrating!

ELI wrote
"Yup, Wis. The Republic is dead. The Government has all power, we are all subjects to the whims of criminals."

We are only subjects if we continue to play. I will be in Galt's Gulch by 1 April 2013. I just hope it all holds together till then.

Guys in Robes wrote..

to make mere breathing in and out the basis for federal prescription

Breathing out produces CO2, a known environmental pollutant. TAX IT HEAVILY!!!

I honestly don't see what all the fuss is about.

Any observant person (and virtually everyone on TF) is already well aware that the Federal Gummint can pretty much do whatever it wants, whenever it wants, with minimal resistance. This includes deciding not to pursue black-letter laws at whim, bypassing Congress and creating laws through executive fiat, imposing burdensome regulations that have the potential to destroy entire sectors of the economy, and granting exemptions to any of the above to well-connected contributors as political favors. Its not like today's ruling is a major increase in the power of The State, nor does it set a new precedent. We've all seen this coming for a long time.

But even that is immaterial in the long term.

Think about it: none of this is scheduled to go into effect until 2014. Who here honestly believes the current global economic system will hold together that much longer?

Concern over today's ruling is akin to complaining about the temperature in your cabin aboard the Titanic, as it approaches the iceberg. It might seem a big deal at the time, but eventually you'll have other more pressing things about which to worry.

Mr. Obama, thank you for this utopia. It's so simple! I can get all the healthcare I ever want no matter what the cost! Why didn't we think of it sooner. Brilliant.

Forward!

That's the only thing that gives me hope, Geschrei. If I wasn't pulling for the collapse BEFORE, at this point, I can't do enough to try to bring it on.

This ruling really has to make think that people like Alex Jones are actually right. For Roberts, not Kennedy to be the deciding vote makes you really have to think conspiracy. Does the NWO really exist as Jones states? Did they get to Roberts and threaten or bribe him? This is just crazy.

What now? Voting doesn't matter now. The FSA outnumber us all.

Sorry Pika, am I blind? I don't see a link to what you are reading. Share? :)

Rjazz did you research his chip allegations??

Next up, Holder gets immunity and it won't even be a blip on MSM.

Nothing to see here folks.

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Own a gun, you must buy a $10,000 safe or pay a fine. Easy!

And have a million dollar bond in case you harm someone of course...if not, pay a "tax".

Is this for real? Reference?

I don't know what all you guys are worried about. If I have to wait for months for socialized medicine treatment I can just polish my 6 Navy Crosses and 15 Silver Stars. GEEEZ!

End the bubbles...you first...

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Next up, Holder gets immunity and it won't even be a blip on MSM.

You bet your ass that is how it will play out. For those rooting for collapse, I don't see it happening in the US until 2015-2017. It will be quite a wait, so you had better buckle in.

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End the bubbles...you first...

Exactly, we either figure out a way to turn the bus around by legal means or we descend to anarchy and NOBODY should desire that.

Meltdown,
Lowbeyond posted the link on page 2
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11p....

Not surprised in the least.

Thanks Grace!!!!

Rush making the point: even if Obamacare is repealed, the precedent has been set. There is nothing that can't be taxed, whether it be engaging commerce or not engaging in commerce.

This is lawlessness. There are no limits.