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Vitchilo
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Well sorry about starting a new thread, but this touches too much countries and the direction it's taking is quite concerning... Quote:Iran massing troops and missile systems in the UAE islands occupied Logta From the same guy who tweeted first about the Saudi forces on alert... and he was right about that one so... Following the tweets about the Saudi Army being on full alert... Quote:Saudi leadership warns against the publication of classified documents or information from the military and security through the means of social communication. Do not be helpful to our enemies This also happened yesterday.. http://www.rt.com/news/line/2012-06-28/Quote:Iran condemns US backing of UAE over Gulf islands So this might be in response to that... http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/iran-sh....Quote:Iran to Equip Gulf Ships With Missiles
Iran expects to equip its ships in the Strait of Hormuz soon with shorter-range missiles, a Revolutionary Guards commander was quoted as saying, in the latest apparent warning to the West not to attack it over its disputed nuclear program.
The Islamic Republic has threatened to shut the Strait, the conduit out of the Gulf for 40 percent of the world's seaborne oil trade, if Western sanctions aimed at curbing its nuclear works block its own crude exports. They are preparing... Anyway, wouldn't surprise me, full scale sanctions hit Iran on Sunday... so it seems to me they are preparing to block the strait. And according to a greek defense website which was accurate in the past, Saudi troops are being deployed in Jordan... remember that Syria is the battleground for a proxy war between Russia and NATO AND between Saudi Arabia and Iran... Turkey wants to end the crisis in Syria and the refugees, not to mention the PKK and Saudi Arabia wants their allies the radicals among the FSA to take power. Maybe we'll see a joint Saudi-Turkish no-fly zone/attack on Syria while Israel takes out Hezbollah while the US takes out Iran... Remember this from ealier this year... http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/29937Quote:Saudi Troops to Spearhead Proposed Syria Peacekeeping Force Quote:#Jordan forces on alert. Plans to coordinate w/ Saudi troops arriving sooner or later next week at latest. Quote:Syria's Assad thanks Iran for its support and promises 'loyalty' -Iranian state television via @AJELive http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/N....Quote:Turkey Placing Aircraft on Syrian Frontier http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.a....Quote:Barak vows to prevent nuclear Iran at pilots' graduation http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.asp....Quote:IDF ups Syria border defenses, prepares for refugees http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/michae....Quote:Turkey asks Nato about a no-fly zone as Syria makes it clear that it's ready to fight dirty http://rt.com/politics/putin-military-fo....Quote:Russia won’t allow threats against it – Putin Obviously aimed at NATO concerning their Tartus naval base in Syria... http://www.rt.com/news/pakistan-consider....Quote:3 in 4 Pakistanis now consider US an enemy as resentment grows http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.a....Quote:Diplomats: Officials unable to agree on Annan Syria plan On July 8, it's the fast of the 17th of Tammuz, when the walls of Jerusalem were breached...might be an important date.. http://urbansurvival.com/week.htmQuote:Now, click over to the US Navy site and note that eight US aircraft carriers have hurriedly left port and are now standing off US shores. Why my this be of interest? Although I don't have any more facts that what's in the media report, it is entirely possible that following an attack on Iran by Israel, and/or Western intervention is Syria, that tensions could escalate and they might include reprisal terrorist attacks on targets of opportunity inside the US by sleeper cells, or agents who have walked in via the still porous Mexican border, kept that way by neutering the good efforts of Border Patrol. Seems to me it never happened before?? http://www.navy.mil/navydata/nav_legacy.....Quote:Aircraft Carriers:
USS Enterprise (CVN 65) - 5th Fleet
USS Nimitz (CVN 68) - Pacific Ocean
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) - Atlantic Ocean
USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70) - Pacific Ocean
USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) - 5th Fleet
USS George Washington (CVN 73) - Yellow Sea
USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74) - Pacific Ocean
USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77) - Atlantic Ocean 2 in the middle-east, 2 in the Atlantic (probably going off Syria or near Iran), 3 in the pacific (going to Iran/near China/NKorea?) and 1 off SK/NK/China. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-e....Quote:Assad rejects external solution for Syria crisis http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2012/....Quote:No foreign intervention in Syria resolution, RI, Russia agree Indonesia, Russia and China don't want the forced removal of Assad... been cleared for a while. http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/....Quote:Turkey rotates stinger missiles towards Syria: report http://www.rt.com/news/line/2012-06-28/Quote:No coordinated draft resolutions for Syria conference – Russian FM
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said there are no coordinated draft resolutions for the Geneva conference on Syria. He said on Thursday that external players must not impose their settlement plans to the Syrian people. Only Syria should make a decision on the essence of the transitional period and the fate of President Bashar al-Assad, the minister stressed. Quote:Iran's UN envoy says nations not serious about nuclear talks (AP) Quote:Syria massing troops near Turkish border say rebels (DPA) Quote:Iran parliament speaker: U.S. threats of military attack against nuclear program are empty (Haaretz) Quote:United States gives China a six-month reprieve from Iran financial sanctions (Haaretz) Like China will stop after 6 months. Please. http://www.imemc.org/article/63809Quote:Israel Army Asks For Extensive Deployment On Egyptian Border Following this : http://tickerforum.org/akcs-www?post=207....Quote:China ignores Vietnam and Philippines in South China Sea We have this : http://stratrisks.com/geostrat/6697Quote:Inside China: PLA says war with U.S. imminent And this : http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Latest-Ne....Quote:China starts 'combat ready' patrols in disputed South China Sea And this : http://www.spacewar.com/reports/China_vo....Quote:China vows to oppose military provocation
China said Thursday it would resolutely oppose any military provocation in its territorial waters, remarks which appeared to be directed at the United States, Vietnam and the Philippines.
China's military has established routine naval patrols in the South China Sea, "indisputable territory" of the nation and a matter of "national sovereignty," defence ministry spokesman Geng Yansheng said. And in Uzbekistan... http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Uzbekist....Quote:Uzbekistan pulls out of 'Russia's NATO'
Ex-Soviet Uzbekistan on Thursday pulled out of a Moscow-led regional security alliance after protesting Russian plans to deploy a rapid reaction force for Central Asia near its borders.
The decision to leave the Collective Security Treaty Organisation comes as a blow to Russia's efforts to reassert its authority in the resource-rich region in the face a continued diplomatic and economic push from China. Could***** off Russia... And this... http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Russia_m....Quote:Russia may fly military cargo to Syria: report
Russia may decide to fly a controversial military cargo of helicopters and air defence systems to Syria after it abandoned an attempt to ship the materiel by sea, a report said Wednesday. Not to mention, with the Obamacare ruling, the 4th of july coming up and the fires in Colorado, there's plenty of ``distractions`` around to start a war without many people being concerned/speaking out.. Oil didn't go up 9% today for nothing. The whole stinking place is a powder keg...
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken
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Jeffrey_thomason
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When they turn the pages of history, when these days have passed long ago. Will they read of us with sadness for the seeds that we let grow?
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Sean
Posts: 1766
Incept: 2009-04-21
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Thanks for posting this summary.
Is that Satan I hear bellowing gleefully down there?
"Sometimes I think it might have been better if Noah had missed the boat." - Mark Twain
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* I think Ann Barnhardt is more and more right. God help us!
* Progressives / Marxists / Communists are many things, STUPID and IMPATIENT are not two of them.
* A hot civil war is coming.
* And people wonder why I prep!
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Macneib
Posts: 3956
Incept: 2008-01-19
Seoul. What a ****hole
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Wow! Now that's what I call a Security Brief! Thanks!
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The worst thing about crossing a line is when you don’t know, you already have.
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Bjonsson
Posts: 349
Incept: 2010-03-10
California
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Sorry Vitchilo, I just don't see Syria, a nation with no oil and no real strategic importance to Russia outside of the port of Tartus being a serious "red line" with the Russians. I think they are just posturing to "frame" their side of the case in negotiations over the future status of Tartus and what other geopolitical goodies they can extract from the West after a potential regime change in Syria. I don't think the Russians are willing to raise the general DEFCON level over Syria, but they are going to apply as much pressure as possible to extract as much as they can out of the situation before the fall of Assad is a done deal.
Russia has already signed on to a post-regime change transition plan there, which leads me to believe that they are in play for a diplomatic buy off.
As for the others... sure, I could see Syria turn into a serious shooting war between Iran and Saudi/Sunni Gulf Arab proxies. This is not something to be casually dismissed as it could potentially put the Straits of Hormuz at risk. I guess, in short, is this the trigger for WW3... I don't think so. Iran and Saudi proxies have already been fighting in Yeman and in Bahrain, not to mention Iraq as well... this is not a new concept, and neither conflict lead to global conflagration... far from it. Could this be the trigger for a very destabilizing regional war... it sure could be, if the players don't play their cards right... and this would NOT have a beneficial impact on our domestic American economy.
I mean, come on... if a situation like this were to happen in the Ukraine, then YES I could see the Russians laying down some red lines and ultimatums. But, Syria?... I think they are gaming the situation to pick up some geopolitical chips to use in other areas.
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Mo
Posts: 12158
Incept: 2007-06-26
Pa.
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When the one percent desire the implementation of a '50 percent solution', we'll get one.
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Avianphlu
Posts: 3956
Incept: 2008-12-03
Ulster NY
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great summary bro
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Bobby
Posts: 2994
Incept: 2008-01-19
vermont
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It is looking a bit dark.
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"It was the money.You Americans, you believe money is power.""Belief, is power."
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Lowbeyond
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Incept: 2008-02-11
CO aka West NJ/East CA
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damn fine good work there. Saves me the trouble Thanks Vitchilo!
maybe its time to fill the tank and the spare 5x3 gas containers... heh
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Vitchilo
Posts: 4615
Incept: 2011-04-27
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Lowbeyond : well the sanctions hit Iran in less than 5 hres... so yeah.
The next week will be hot... hopefully not nuclear hot...
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken
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Dakine2004
Posts: 9231
Incept: 2007-10-23
MD.MI.NC.SD.
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If it gets 'hot' in the Mid East - the U.S. will just tip over the two Canuck canoes and take their countries petro...
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Macneib
Posts: 3956
Incept: 2008-01-19
Seoul. What a ****hole
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The worst thing about crossing a line is when you don’t know, you already have.
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Bjonsson
Posts: 349
Incept: 2010-03-10
California
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We already have access to Canadian petro.
The US's problem is not that we have a shortage of petroleum. The problem is that the US has a shortage of CHEAP petroleum.
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Colk55
Posts: 2423
Incept: 2010-02-11
Indiana
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Vitchilo, can we really expect anything else? Outside of the 1900s, 20s and 30s, we've been involved in some type of conflict or another every decade for the past 120 years. Just off the top of my head you've got the Spanish-American War, WWI, WWII, Korea, The Cold War until the late 80s, Vietnam, Grenada, Iran/Iraq, Iraq v.1, Afghanistan, Iraq v.2, Egypt, Libya and soon to be Syria.
'Round and 'round and 'round we go, where it stops, nobody knows.
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Drhooves
Posts: 614
Incept: 2008-01-09
Central IL - "the land of crooks and windbags"
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Saw gas today for $3.09 a gallon - that's the lowest I've seen in a while.
As weak a president as Obummer has been, I can't believe some of the B and C list countries haven't made a go with poking at Uncle Sam. Can you imagine the chaos if two or three of the hotspots in Vit's list actually light up on fire? Barry will be ****tin' his pants.
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Gen says "it" is coming because:
"Balance sheets have two sides!"......and
"You can't count a single dollar twice!"
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Enapa
Posts: 1164
Incept: 2008-01-25
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........
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Bozonian
Posts: 19889
Incept: 2007-09-01
Saratoga Springs, New York
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Got Fallout Shelter?
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Forget about blaming, fighting with, or crediting other people. The only real challenge in life, is with yourself. -- Me
Everything I write is my opinion and not to be considered proven fact. Nothing I write should be considered financial advice.
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Poer
Posts: 1388
Incept: 2008-09-28
'Eppur si muove!'
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The 4th turning- points out there has been a major world conflict at every K wave or about 80 years going back to Middle ages- but what makes this one so scary is that so many end of time senarios coincide with this time coming in the fall- or at least a few- though on 12-22-12 I think the world goes on- I do think we'll have a turning of history of sorts- something big is coming and if you do not intuit that...well it does not really matter- a new election will be happening and no matter who wins- it will not make a ounce of difference- the March of tyrany has begun- where it ends no one knows
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"The degree to which a man substitutes the judgment of others for his own, failing to look at reality directly, is the degree to which his mental processes are alienated from reality." Nathaniel Branden in Ayn Rands 'Capitalism The Unknown Ideal'
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Grody
Posts: 3731
Incept: 2008-02-19
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Quote:Saudi troops are being deployed in Jordan... Uh, excuse me but they are going the wrong way. The war is suppposed to be against Iran, which is in the other direction. This reaffirms what was said about the Saudi troops in the first Iraq war, when they were stationed in front of the Americans before the war started. The Americans were instructed that after the war started, DON'T shoot the first Arabs they saw. These would be the Saudis running away. They were to shoot the second line of Arabs they saw which would be the Iraqis chasing the Saudis. The Saudis never have to pay or fight. All they do is profit from higher oil prices. As usual, they will fight to the last American soldier and the last American dollar. 
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Pain is weakness leaving the body. Bulls need more pain NOW.
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Muscleknight
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Incept: 2007-06-26
Columbia, SC
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It would be ironic if it started tomorrow.
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Bluebird
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