Market Ticker Forums
Detailed market commentary at The Market Ticker and Ticker Classics (The Year 2012 In Review)
Donations accepted; we offer GOLD ACCESS for enhanced privileges. T-Shirts, caps, coffee mugs? Click here.
BlogTalkRadio - Mondays at 3:30 Central - Yes, TickerGuy has a radio show (kinda)
Rss Icon RSS available You are not signed on; if you are a visitor please register for a free account!
Sponsored Advertising
To remove advertising from your display upgrade to Gold Donor status
MarketTicker Forums Read Message in General
User: Not logged on
Top Forum Top Login Control Panel FAQ Register Logout
User Info Well, well. Devalue the Euro? in forum [General]
Asimov
Posts: 103941
Incept: 2007-08-26
Gold
East Tennessee Eastern Time
Report This As A Bad Post Add To Your Ignored User List Ignore this thread
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/201....

Quote:
Holy smokes! The EU technocrats have finally pulled out the big guns! The agreement on Friday was to take the incredibly bold step of avoiding subordination in the Spanish bond market. The money needed for the busted Spanish banks will now be made available directly from Brussels with few strings attached. Wow! What a breakthrough!

Global markets have taken a quick look at what has been offered up by the deep thinkers in Euroland and said, “WE LOVE IT!”

Me? I think it’s a spit in the bucket. The half-life of this bailout will be measured in weeks.

We have seen this play out time and again the past four years. The capital markets are forcing policy decisions.

“Wise” people like Paul Krugman have said for years that “Bond Vigilantes” don’t exist. There is no doubt any longer that they exist and are alive, well and hungry. The vigilantes are also armed with highly sophisticated robots that can execute attacks on multiple fronts and across markets in milliseconds. The war going on in the bond markets is not over by a long shot.

My read of the EU summit is that Spanish banks are going to get a “soft” bailout. Existing common shareholders and subordinated bond holders will not get wiped out (as they should). The bankers must love this result. They get to keep their jobs for a few years longer, all the time praying for a miracle.

Where does this go? Directly to Italy. Which Italian bank would love to have some of that cheap equity money that Brussels is doling out? All of them.

But here’s the deal, France’s banks are in desperate need of new equity too. They have been selling off assets left and right. That’s no way to keep up employment in Socialist France. There are some very big balances sheets in Paris that need a new slug of 3% Perpetual Preferreds. If Italy’s banks get the "Sweet Deal," then the French banks will have their hands out too.

Talking about re-caps of banks in Spain, Italy and France, we might just as well include a few dodgy banks in Brussels. A couple of German banks are also thin on equity. Add a few of them to the list.

Ah… I’m sorry to rain on the parade, but the number derived from all that bailing starts with Euro 1 Trillion, and could easily push to E2T.


LOTS more.

----------
It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.
If you trade based on what other people say, you will lose money. Especially what I say. I won't be held responsible. Festina lente.
1lumpor2
Posts: 2649
Incept: 2011-05-01
Green

Banned
Report This As A Bad Post Add To Your Ignored User List
USD is the best looking horse in the glue factory.

----------
-- Done
1lumpor2
Posts: 2649
Incept: 2011-05-01
Green

Banned
Report This As A Bad Post Add To Your Ignored User List
We're ****ed, they're gang raped.

----------
-- Done
Infidel
Posts: 5463
Incept: 2007-08-27
Green A True American Patriot!
between here and there
Report This As A Bad Post Add To Your Ignored User List
a standard gunny sack only hold 100 pounds of dicks, not enough for an entire continent of cock suckers.

----------
"DON'T BELIEVE THEM, DON'T FEAR THEM, DON'T ASK ANYTHING OF THEM." -ALEXANDER SOLZHENITSYN.

Tsberts
Posts: 2350
Incept: 2008-02-05
Gold
Minnesota
Report This As A Bad Post Add To Your Ignored User List
Quote:
a standard gunny sack only hold 100 pounds of dicks, not enough for an entire continent of cock suckers.


You just need to find a supply of smaller dicks.

----------
Photoguy was an optimist.
In Soviet Russia, the banks are run by the politicians.
The cancer within the federal government has metastasized, it's now up to each of the states to contain the cancer.
Krzelune
Posts: 5513
Incept: 2007-10-08
Green
Report This As A Bad Post Add To Your Ignored User List
or larger sacks

----------
The desire of millions, the inconvenience of millions, the suffering of millions, the death of millions, does not concern them because of the evolutionary humanist lens they peer through.
Avianphlu
Posts: 3932
Incept: 2008-12-03
Gold A True American Patriot!
Ulster NY
Report This As A Bad Post Add To Your Ignored User List
the US will do the same thing...get ready for the race to the bottom
Gen_maximus57
Posts: 4580
Incept: 2007-09-03
Green
Tampa
Report This As A Bad Post Add To Your Ignored User List
In the article, they talk about timing and it makes sense.

Devalue Euro -- Stronger USD -- Lower Gas Prices -- No effect on exporters for a few months = Obozo re-election chances higher
Nanna
Posts: 5662
Incept: 2008-01-20
Gold
NY State
Report This As A Bad Post Add To Your Ignored User List
Banks selling off assets, IMO, is not only indicative of current deflation but also potentially of expected deflation.

Not a happy thought, but drafting on big money usually works.


N/not investment advice, just champagne without the brunch on a Sunday morning

----------
"There are fluctuations in the market that don't mean anything."Ira Gluskin, February 14, 2012
Rvacha
Posts: 8295
Incept: 2008-10-03
Gold
Cleveland
Report This As A Bad Post Add To Your Ignored User List
I am a big fan of BK, but devaluation does not work and will not work. How do you devalue the Euro 20% and hope to not see Italian yields under 10%? Devalue = default by another name - how is that going to save banks? And where are the freshly printed Euros going to go? They will of course get parked at the ECB like all the other ones. How will this help ponzi entitlement schemes when they all have a COLA component? IMHO a very disappointing BK blog.

----------
"I suggest you panic." - Hugh Hendry
Top Forum Top Login Control Panel FAQ Register Logout