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Emails: Geithner, Treasury drove cutoff of non-union Delphi workers’ pensions

Emails obtained by The Daily Caller show that the U.S. Treasury Department, led by Timothy Geithner, was the driving force behind terminating the pensions of 20,000 salaried retirees at the Delphi auto parts manufacturing company.

The move, made in 2009 while the Obama administration implemented its auto bailout plan, appears to have been made solely because those retirees were not members of labor unions.

The internal government emails contradict sworn testimony, in federal court and before Congress, given by several Obama administration figures. They also indicate that the administration misled lawmakers and the courts about the sequence of events surrounding the termination of those non-union pensions, and that administration figures violated federal law.

Delphi, a General Motors company, is one of the world’s largest automotive parts manufacturers. Twenty thousand of its workers lost nearly their entire pensions when the government bailed out GM. At the same time, Delphi employees who were members of the United Auto Workers union saw their pensions topped off and made whole.

The White House and Treasury Department have consistently maintained that the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation (PBGC) independently made the decision to terminate the 20,000 non-union Delphi workers’ pension plan. The PBGC is a federal government agency that handles private-sector pension benefits issues. Its charter calls for independent representation of pension beneficiaries’ interests.

Former Treasury official Matthew Feldman and former White House auto czar Ron Bloom, both key members of the Presidential Task Force on the Auto Industry during the GM bailout, have testified under oath that the PBGC, not the administration, led the effort to terminate the non-union Delphi workers’ pension plan.

“As a result of the Delphi Corporation bankruptcy, for example, Delphi and the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation were forced to terminate Delphi’s pension plans, which means there are Delphi retirees who unfortunately will collect less than their full pension benefits,” Feldman testified on July 11, 2012.

The emails TheDC has obtained show that the Treasury Department, not the independent PBGC, was running the show.

Under 29 U.S.C. §1342, the PBGC is the only government entity that is legally empowered to initiate termination of a pension or make any official movements toward doing so.

One email dated Thursday, April 2, 2009 shows PBGC staffer Joseph House discussing a meeting he and his colleagues were anticipating with the entire auto bailout team the following day.

House emailed PBGC colleagues Karen Morris and Michael Rae that during the Friday morning meeting, the “agenda is everything — lead off with Chrysler, then we’ll get into GM/Delphi.”

Morris had written earlier that day that the PBGC team would “probably get invited to the Monday meeting at tomorrow’s meeting,” and that the Monday meeting would involve “talks” on the GM and Delphi portions of the bailout plan. Those strategies, she wrote, including “pension issues,” would be “kicking off” that Monday.

But after the Friday meeting, House emailed PBGC staffers Karen Morris and John Menke. “We’ve been disinvited,” he wrote. “It’s for the best.”

“Who uninvited us?” Morris replied.

“Treasury,” House responded.

It’s unclear how many additional meetings about the Delphi pensions took place, and whether PBGC staff were invited to participate in them. But Treasury excluded them from the meeting during which the discussions began, which is likely a violation of 29 U.S.C. §1342. Without a PBGC representative in the room, Treasury officials were legally prohibited from making decision about pensions — or even from moving toward them.

Also running counter to the PBGC’s mandate of independence was another email chain between Joseph House and Matthew Feldman, then a Treasury official and a key member of the Obama administration’s auto task force. Those emails show that the PBGC believed it needed to clear decisions and action plans through senior administration officials.

House wrote to Feldman on Thursday, April 16, 2009, that he wanted a “very brief follow-up” discussion to “ensure that we’re acting responsibly/protective” as they moved toward terminating the pensions of non-union Delphi workers.

“[W]e’ve initiated our internal process here,” House added, seeking Feldman’s agreement, “which includes communications to designated reps at our Board agencies (Labor, Commerce, Treasury). Relatedly, that process contemplates newspaper publication of agency action, which we’re tentatively scheduling for end of next week.”

“Don’t want anyone on the auto-team to be caught flat-footed behind any of this,” House added. “I can give you 60 seconds of color when you have a moment.”

Feldman responded: “Understood. You should do what you need to.”

Four days later, Vince Snowbarger — then the PBGC’s acting director, and now its Deputy Director for Operations — emailed several PBGC officials internally. He relayed that the agency “anticipate[d] taking action to file for termination in both [Delphi’s] salaried and hourly plans before the week is out.”

“Given publication deadlines, this means action as soon as tomorrow,” Snowbarger continued, referring to the requirement to make a public statement in the form of a newspaper announcement.

“The action we are contemplating will preserve our position against those assets while the decisions about Delphi’s future are being decided,” he added.

Snowbarger also wrote that Obama administration officials had given him a green light. “The auto team at Treasury is aware of this potential and have indicated we should do what we need to do,” he wrote.

E-MAILS HERE: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/07/emails....


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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/geithner-s....

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Former Treasury official Matthew Feldman and former White House auto czar Ron Bloom, both key members of the Presidential Task Force on the Auto Industry during the GM bailout, have testified under oath that the PBGC, not the administration, led the effort to terminate the non-union Delphi workers’ pension plan." Turns out they lied... Under oath.
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This administration is one huge, lying, corrupt, non-transparent bundle of ****.

I get that politicians lie, but these pricks are more bureaucrats than pols, and I guess there is no honor left nowadays. ****ing Justice lies under oath, now proof that Treasury lies under oath.

Its really nigh time to implement "**** the ****ing ****ers before they ****ing **** you".

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But Obama said the auto bailouts worked! Someone is lying here.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/28/news/eco....

Obama said that, despite claims of Republican critics, the bailout was the only way to prevent the closure of General Motors (GM, Fortune 500) and Chrysler Group and the collapse of the nation's supplier base.

He referred to the $80 billion bailout as a bet on the American worker, and added "Now, three years later, that bet is paying off, not just for you but for America."

Obama pointed to successes in the auto industry since the bailout. Those successes include record profits at GM and the company again claiming title of world's largest automaker. He also pointed to strong market share gains by Chrysler Group and a bout of hiring by the automakers and their suppliers -- an estimated 200,000 jobs so far -- along with plans to add additional workers in coming years.

The president made the speech at the UAW convention in Washington, but it came on the day of the Republican primary in the auto industry's home state of Michigan.

The ongoing auto bailout debate

And Obama took barely veiled shots at Republican rivals Mitt Romney -- who, the president said, wrote an op-ed piece in late 2008 entitled "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt" -- and Rick Santorum, who has also been critical of the bailout in the weeks leading up to the Michigan vote.

Without mentioning him by name, Obama disputed Romney's statements in recent weeks that the reorganization could have been accomplished without federal assistance, and that the UAW and its members at the automakers got off too easy as other creditors took hits in the bankruptcy process.

"With the economy in complete freefall, there were no private companies or investors willing to take a chance on the auto industry. No one was lining up to give you guys loans. Anyone in the financial sector could tell you that," Obama said.

Big Michigan winners: GM & Ford

He said that without the bailout, GM and Chrysler would have gone under -- and that would have sparked widespread failures among suppliers and even a bankruptcy at rival Ford Motor (F, Fortune 500).

The president said that those like Romney who advocated taking a tougher line with the UAW were pursuing "anti-worker policies in hopes unions like yours will unravel."

Republicans weren't backing down from their criticism of the bailout on Tuesday.

"This is an insider deal for his union cronies who got billions in bailout money and are now backing Obama's re-election campaign," said Kirsten Kukowski, spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee.

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Well, I found them. Feel free to arrest them just any old time.

http://www.willkie.com/Matthew_Feldman

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/02/01/l....
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IIRC

Last week GM reported(?) a 41% profit slide

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/g....

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The Detroit automaker said Thursday that its second-quarter net profit fell 41 percent on a big loss in Europe. And there are signs that North America, GM’s main income source, also is slowing. Profits there have fallen for two straight quarters, the first time that’s happened since the company left bankruptcy in 2009.


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GM’s profit from April through June dropped to $1.5 billion, $1 billion less than the same quarter a year earlier. It had a $361 million pretax loss in Europe and $19 million of red ink in South America. In North America, pretax profits fell nearly 13 percent to about $2 billion. International profits, including Asia, also dropped, by 3 percent to $557 million.

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I am not going to purchase another Union made vehicle.

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I made up my mind after the Executive branch gutted bankruptcy law, screwed bondholders and rewarded the unions that I would NEVER buy a new Government Motors or Chrysler vehicle as long as I live. My kids had better not, either.

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The bailout did work. Union leeches got many times their investment back at the expense of others - at gun point.

Seriously people....Stop believing/living in a fantasy world that you were taught in 5th grade. It doesn't exist, It never did.


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Weren't the Delphi DB plans managed by Delphi and part of there balance sheet? Whereas the UAW worker DB plan was controlled by the UAW.

Corruption in government, color me surprised.
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Lowbeyond wrote..
Seriously people....Stop believing/living in a fantasy world that you were taught in 5th grade. It doesn't exist, It never did.


Yeah, hard to argue that, Low, but its a harsh realization for some of us.

We don't need no stinkin' rule of law.

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Tickered.

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You know the unions are just another branch of the government, don't you?
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And nothing will happen. The only thing that changes this now is a full scale revolution of the people and that too ain't happening. The corruption is in the open and the sheeple just sit and watch TV
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Whoddathunkit?

If you didn't you were a damn fool.

Anyone wanna look at the dealerships that were closed and their political donations as well?

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rule of law. you are taught that it means one thing.

In practice though it means an entirely different thing. It is nothing more than an excuse to have a Legitimate State (thanks to the kabuki theater that people voluntarily attend and participate every 2 years) that is one of Men, Exception, and Privilege.

The funny thing is the State tells you explicitly that this is the reality. ie) what do you think - sorry we don't have the resources to do X means ? Normally it is in regards to property theft, one of the few things that a legitimate State should take care of. But its always sorry you got your stuff stolen, we are too busy. Then a minute later they will have a speed trap set up. Shocking

But people still think that laws are applied equally and we are nation of laws. Its amazing when stop and think about it.

And law that is applied with exception and/or malice enforced by one of the most privileged groups in the country - cops/prosecutors/judges - just what is that anyway?

Whatever it is it surely is not a _just_ law. Thus, to hell with it, and all that choose to threaten their neighbor for the benefit of their own families.

Speaking of Judges...that one person can fine you for a random amount or jail you for an indeterminate amount of time just because you hurt his feelings under the guise of "contempt of court"... well if that is not a Kangaroo Court, what else is? But that is accepted and cheered.

It really does seem that people will accept anything so long as the person doing the killing/stealing/maiming is wearing magic clothes or waving a matching flag or wearing a matching button.

That is what this country is. Nation of Law ? Heh.

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I was thinking about writing a post talking about the Rule of Law, or lack thereof, but you beat me to it, Low. And certainly did a better job than I would have.

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