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Tickerguy
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My God people are ****ing stupid.

The media is not only stupid they're Satanic. These are people who are supposed to be able to think critically, and none of them do. That's either because they can't or worse, it's because they deliberately choose not to.

It is often claimed the "positivity", that is, the rate of positive testing, must be below some "threshold" before a disease can be said to be "under control." This is, on nearly a blanket basis, false.

There are two sorts of tests -- "survey" testing, where one is attempting to determine the prevalence of a given thing, and diagnostic testing, where you are attempting to confirm a guess about some condition.

If you are doing a SURVEY, for example, of the people who have had Covid19, and you can accurately determine who has had it and you also know the percentage of people who are either resistant or immune due to some other cause than having had it then a SURVEY TEST is extremely useful. It tells you how close you are, if you know the basic reproduction number (R0), to herd suppression.

If you are testing on a random basis in a given area and can get results back immediately then you can test mitigations and their effectiveness. If you change ONE thing and wait one viral incubation time if that mitigation is effective at exactly one incubation time you will see an inflection in the infection curve. Assuming your testing methodology is consistent that inflection will be in the form of a normal distribution curve change, because incubation is a bell curve.

Likewise if you test everyone once a year for fasting blood glucose you can infer whether metabolic disease is getting more or less prevalent in a given area. This is useful information.

But if you are testing on a diagnostic basis then none of this means anything. In that case a low positive result rate means you are wasting money and scaring people.

If you test people who "think they have or have been exposed to Covid19" then the higher the positive rate the more well-founded the belief is. This is a good thing; it means your information campaign to the public is resulting in those who actually have the disease getting tested while those who do not are not wasting resources, including time and of course money. In addition it means you are not unnecessarily scaring the Hell out of the general population; someone concerned enough to get tested has a high probability of being right.

THE HIGHER THE PERCENTAGE OF WRONG GUESSES THE MORE STUPID, CORRUPT AND WORTHY OF BEING FED INTO A PLASTIC CHIPPER FEET FIRST THOSE WHO ARE PROMOTING THE TESTING AND MESSAGING TO THE PUBLIC ARE.

If the positivity rate is 5% then only one in 20 people who THINK they have Covid actually do. The other 19 were scared out of their wits for no good purpose. Those 19 people were terrorized for profit and the profit is BOTH political and financial.

Terrorism is the correct word for such a campaign and explicitly delineates what we call people who do that and the penalties that MUST attach to each and every one of them. The entire point of terrorism is to instill fear and by doing so disrupt economic and political discourse for whatever purpose the terrorist(s) have.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE DONE.

Second, to be useful as a diagnostic a test must return results while the window of opportunity to interdict whatever is being tested remains open. If I cannot get a test for cancer until it has become inoperative and will inevitably kill me then there is no purpose to the test. I will never consent to such a test because I cannot do anything useful with the results; if I have said cancer then I am going to die, and if I do not then I will not. The knowledge does me no good as I cannot change the outcome. All I am doing is making someone rich who is running the test. Such a testing regime is inherently fraudulent and the people pushing such a regime are committing extortion, fraud and should be imprisoned right here and now with every penny they extorted flushed out of them and the firms involved and returned to the screwed members of the public, with interest.

Likewise, to be of use in informing public policy a test must return results within the time where a change in behavior will change outcomes for public health at large. In the context of a transmissible disease this means the results have to come back while the window of transmission is open and transmission is likely. If I am infectious from one day before symptoms appear to nine days after (10 days in total) then unless results come back before I become seriously symptomatic from a standpoint of reducing transmission the test is worthless. Only a psychopath is going to INTENTIONALLY go out and infect others so once you are severely symptomatic the effective window of transmission is closed irrespective of whether I can physically give the disease to someone else or not. This means that unless you can give me results immediately, before I become heavily symptomatic, you cannot do anything to reduce the transmission of the disease and once again the so-called "testing regime" IS AN ACT OF TERRORISM because it once again fails the essential test of informing actionable change in behavior.

Those agencies and individuals within our government at all levels, whether local, state or federal who are in fact terrorists must be so-charged, indicted, arrested, tried and punished in accordance with the law.
There are no exceptions that are permissible. Period.

If you remember when Covid19 was first getting going we were promised point-of-care testing that would return results in 20 minutes while you waited were going to become the standard within a short period of time, as soon as we could ramp up the supply system for it. There are already a huge number of the machines to run said tests in doctor's offices all over the nation as they are used for flu diagnostics; only the reagents consumed are different. In addition paper chromatography testing, which also takes 10 minutes, is dirt cheap, can be done with saliva and sold over the counter for $2 just as is done with a pregnancy test today does exist, was developed and yet has not been approved and placed into wide public distribution. It is trivially possible to make millions of these a day and sell them literally in every drug and convenience store in the nation for near-zero cost.

WE ARE NOW FOUR MONTHS BEYOND THE POINT WHERE IMMEDIATE-RESULTS TESTING WAS PROMISED AND YET INSTEAD OF TESTING WE ARE IN FACT COMMITTING TERRORISM WRIT LARGE AS ONLY A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE TESTS ARE BEING DONE ON AN IMMEDIATE-READ BASIS. THIS IS INTENTIONAL, IT IS SATANIC, AND THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR BOTH PROMOTING AND PROFITING FROM IT IN PRIVATE INDUSTRY AND GOVERNMENT MUST BE HELD TO ACCOUNT, WITH ALL SUCH "TESTING" SHUT DOWN IMMEDIATELY AS THE OUTRAGEOUS ACT OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM THAT IT IS.

Instead of suborning and supporting terrorism we can STOP Covid right here and now. The bend in the Rt rate available to us today, within 5 days, is sufficient to drop it everywhere in the United States below 1.0 right now, rendering the bug a literal nuisance virus. We can do so at nearly-zero cost and with no economic impact whatsoever, and go back to our lives. There is in fact neither need or even desire for a vaccine (that is more-likely to harm you than help, by the way.)

Here is the answer -- and yes, it really is this simple: https://tickerforum.org/akcs-www?post=23....

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Quote:
The media is not only stupid they're Satanic.


You have no idea how correct you are.

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Oh yes I do

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If you will not force justice to be done by any means necessary when over 100,000 are murdered by political hacks from both parties do not complain or expect my help when you or someone you love dies at their hand. -- Me
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