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Mortgagefreakshow
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Trading all of a sudden increased and it dropped 70 cents. Something just happened.

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Zelonewolf
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Seems to be inline with USD/JPY going parabolic up

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Mortgagefreakshow
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Futures must be pumped up. CFC news cannot be understated. The biggest mortgage company in the world is begging for cash again.

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Gmak
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The USD seems to be tanking against a number of currencies. Someone just found out something somewhere.The CAD just gained 60 bps. That's huge for 5 minutes.
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This all must be centered around Countrywide. All this seem to have happened at the same time CFC tanked pre-market. They MUST be in serious IMMINENT trouble.

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Lukehappy
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you don't think it has to do with their begging for money news?

Jluciani
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well... how much more money do they need... maybe I can help Bronzillo out with a loan (MEW)... LOL

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Gmak, beeps or pips?

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Gmak
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Pcap:

now 77/100 of a cent.
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I'll give 'em $5.

Not per-share. For the whole company smiley

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Lot's of speculation.

1) I read it to mean that they need this cash NOW - not later, or next week - BUT NOW.

2) If I were in their shoes, I'd have first went to those that had supported me before. It may be telling that CFC is now (in essence) publically asking for "help" from elsewhere ... one can only assume that the prior sugar-daddies have said "no thank you" to another helping.

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I'll be asking my clients (mortgage brokers) today whether they have any issues funding or closing loans.

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... also,

the fact that this is now going public strongly indicates that they have exhausted whatever private means and communications they can bring to bear. In that these deals typically get worked out privately - it now telling that they are forced to publically beg.

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IMHO it's because of the news that they're seeking yet more financing, only a couple of weeks after the deal with BofA that was supposed to save them.

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/070911/countrywi....

It's a strong signal that they're royally ****ed.
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No Pre-Market trades have been reported for this security.


http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/Extend....

what are you using?

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They're being traded. I've been watching it all morning.

CFC is ****ed. Absolutely ****ed. I said it at the time and covered it in some detail. $2 billion was absolutely chickenfeed - a Hail Mary pass that the mortgage market would immediately unlock for their paper.

It wasn't going to happen, it didn't happen, and now they're going to roach.

I said then that CFC was likely in the grip of "death spiral" financing and the lack of disclosure of absolute prohibitions against that in their original 8K was all I needed to treat it as if that was exactly what was coming for them.

Looks like that's exactly how this is going to play out.

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Gmak, FYI, 1/100 of a cent is a pip, not a bp.

Go Loonie go!
Go Yen go!

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Sierraboy
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"Countrywide's stock plunged by over 5 percent yesterday after analysts at Merrill Lynch and UBS cut their profit estimates on worries over the company's ability to make new loans. The stock, which has fallen over 150 percent this year, closed at a four-year low of $17.21 yesterday."



Stock has fallen 150% this year - wow that is a steep drop LOL!
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I imagine that writer did "stay in school" - that was still his best effort. We're Toast.
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