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Pika-steph Posts: 54703 Incept: 2007-09-11 Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775	Whoo hoo! Rally! 2011-01-12 0.898 2011-01-26 0.883 2011-02-09 0.881 2011-02-23 0.820 2011-03-09 0.800 2011-03-23 0.770 2011-04-06 0.764 2011-04-20 0.740 2011-05-04 0.767 2011-05-18 0.742 2011-06-01 0.743 2011-06-15 0.719 2011-06-29 0.737 ---------- Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org/ "The only regulation that really works is failure."--Rick Santelli 2011-07-07 20:52:12 Permalink
Josecitomadera Posts: 554 Incept: 2009-03-20 Miami	Quote: Again, MULT hasn't meant a damn thing since the Fed started paying interest on reserves held there. Real velocity is ~1.4. I see the logic in this statement. The central banks will do everything they can to restore equilibrium. If they can balance out a dropping MULT by paying interest, then they'll neutralize the effect of a MULT going to zero therefore averting collapse. They have become quite adept at this. This is why pre-Nazi Germany descended into hyperinflation as soon as the printing presses went amok and we haven't. ---------- What do I know, I'm only an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT. Last modified: 2011-07-08 22:42:24 by josecitomadera 2011-07-08 22:41:58 Permalink
Pika-steph Posts: 54703 Incept: 2007-09-11 Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775	Quote: They have become quite adept at this. This is why pre-Nazi Germany descended into hyperinflation as soon as the printing presses went amok and we haven't. Uh....no. Nazi Germany went into hyperinflation because their debt was denominated in FOREIGN currency. ---------- Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org/ "The only regulation that really works is failure."--Rick Santelli 2011-07-09 00:37:17 Permalink
Josecitomadera Posts: 554 Incept: 2009-03-20 Miami	Quote: Uh....no. Nazi Germany went into hyperinflation because their debt was denominated in FOREIGN currency. OK, how long did it take from their equivalent of a Lehman or other definitive crisis event to their hyper-inflationary environment? Since the current financial crisis began in the FALL of '08, it has been over three years now where TPTB have contained the crisis. By this I mean we have not had the similar series of events prior to WW2 yet- the Great Depression and all of its secondary effects, political upheaval, the rise of dictatorships, etc. If in our current time period, the central banks have postponed the final collapse longer than during the prior periods, TPTB have gotten better at containing crisis even if the final outcome is collapse. And if they have been able to contain major crises longer than in the past, no one can preclude the possibility that they might be able to contain it longer than those who have been calling for its immediate demise. ---------- What do I know, I'm only an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT. 2011-07-12 10:07:57 Permalink
Corn1945 Posts: 4167 Incept: 2009-04-30	Prices of gold and silver say otherwise. 2011-07-13 13:02:09 Permalink
Pika-steph Posts: 54703 Incept: 2007-09-11 Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775	2011-01-12 0.896 2011-01-26 0.882 2011-02-09 0.880 2011-02-23 0.819 2011-03-09 0.800 2011-03-23 0.770 2011-04-06 0.764 2011-04-20 0.739 2011-05-04 0.766 2011-05-18 0.740 2011-06-01 0.741 2011-06-15 0.717 2011-06-29 0.735 2011-07-13 0.729 And headed back down. ---------- Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org/ "The only regulation that really works is failure."--Rick Santelli 2011-07-21 23:14:42 Permalink
Widgeon Posts: 13481 Incept: 2007-08-30 Region formerly known as the United States	0.733 Paint Drying 2011-08-04 18:28:19 Permalink
Pika-steph Posts: 54703 Incept: 2007-09-11 Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775	2011-01-12 0.896 2011-01-26 0.882 2011-02-09 0.880 2011-02-23 0.819 2011-03-09 0.800 2011-03-23 0.770 2011-04-06 0.764 2011-04-20 0.739 2011-05-04 0.766 2011-05-18 0.740 2011-06-01 0.741 2011-06-15 0.717 2011-06-29 0.735 2011-07-13 0.729 2011-07-27 0.733 ---------- Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org/ "The only regulation that really works is failure."--Rick Santelli 2011-08-04 20:31:50 Permalink
Ursus-horribilis Posts: 828 Incept: 2008-03-16 Carmel, CA	Slow motion train wreck. ---------- "There is a lot of support at zero." - Art Cashin 2011-08-04 21:14:07 Permalink
Colk55 Posts: 2415 Incept: 2010-02-11 Indiana	The M1M gets wood. Well, a splinter. 2011-06-15: 0.717 2011-06-29: 0.735 2011-07-13: 0.729 2011-07-27: 0.733 2011-08-10: 0.776 ---------- The politician's motto: If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull***. 2011-08-18 19:19:50 Permalink*
Chris92346 Posts: 1314 Incept: 2009-03-25	The curve seems to be flattening (I can be an optimist can't it?) 2011-08-19 04:32:15 Permalink
Resistance Posts: 6162 Incept: 2008-09-26 Banned	If it's anything less than one, then the only thing to be optimistic about is whether or not you'll get a piece of corn, or two, in your **** sandwich. ---------- "Why must political experiments always be in the direction of more government? Why not give the free market a county or even a state or two, and see what it can accomplish?"Murray Rothbard - The Fallacy of the Public Sector 2011-08-19 08:44:06 From PDA Permalink
Colk55 Posts: 2415 Incept: 2010-02-11 Indiana	Small move up: 2011-06-29: 0.735 2011-07-13: 0.729 2011-07-27: 0.733 2011-08-10: 0.776 2011-08-24: 0.779 ---------- The politician's motto: If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull***. 2011-09-02 00:31:04 Permalink*
Josecitomadera Posts: 554 Incept: 2009-03-20 Miami	If it would have continued its 2009 trajectory, it would be at ZERO now. They have stabilized the situation and kept it within a declining range for 2 years now. Of course, it continues to decline but the acceleration has declined massively with respect to its 2009 freefall. Its 2009 velocity was a free fall. Looking at the chart, they have maintained it between a .2 range which declines by .2 about every year except for 2010 so it maybe an alternating pattern varying between .2 and .1. 2009- between 1.0 and .8 2010- between .8 and .9 2011- between .9 and .7 It's three year average declines at a rate of .1.At its current rate, it would take 7 years to reach ZERO-2018. ---------- What do I know, I'm only an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT. 2011-09-09 10:55:16 Permalink
Lemonaid Posts: 9879 Incept: 2008-01-20 Metro Detroit	Anything less than parity is FAIL. It means any new liquidity causes more net deflation of the aggregate of all dollar denominated assets. ---------- "There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved." Ludwig von Mises 2011-09-09 20:06:43 Permalink
Mayorquimby Posts: 13909 Incept: 2008-09-18 The Archaic Past	2011-09-07: 0.797 ---------- They who wish to hurt you, work within the law. - Morrissey Gold is theft. 2011-09-15 17:41:29 Permalink
Pika-steph Posts: 54703 Incept: 2007-09-11 Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775	What Lemonaid said. ---------- Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org/ "The only regulation that really works is failure."--Rick Santelli 2011-09-15 21:55:26 Permalink
Colk55 Posts: 2415 Incept: 2010-02-11 Indiana	With the talk of how it relates to the monetary base, I thought I would add this: I don't know that I would call that stabilized, as the decline is still evident. If you really look at it, it's continuing the same trajectory it was on from the early 90s until today. ---------- The politician's motto: If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull***. 2011-09-18 06:12:10 Permalink*
Mayorquimby Posts: 13909 Incept: 2008-09-18 The Archaic Past	Default bad debts and excessive credit and after prices drop 60 percent or more, people with CASH will step up and get commerce flowing again. ---------- They who wish to hurt you, work within the law. - Morrissey Gold is theft. 2011-09-18 10:33:58 Permalink
Iridiculous Posts: 103 Incept: 2009-12-05 Seattle	So what is propping up M1 this summer? Is it be related to home sales, which generally get a boost during this time of year? 2011-09-29 14:27:27 Permalink
Lemonaid Posts: 9879 Incept: 2008-01-20 Metro Detroit	Somewhat strengthening dollar after 6 when QE2 ended. ---------- "There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved." Ludwig von Mises Last modified: 2011-09-29 14:37:23 by lemonaid 2011-09-29 14:31:10 From PDA Permalink
Mayorquimby Posts: 13909 Incept: 2008-09-18 The Archaic Past	2011-09-21: 0.784 ---------- They who wish to hurt you, work within the law. - Morrissey Gold is theft. 2011-09-29 20:38:50 Permalink
Colk55 Posts: 2415 Incept: 2010-02-11 Indiana	2011-08-10: 0.775 2011-08-24: 0.778 2011-09-07: 0.796 2011-09-21: 0.783 2011-10-05: 0.812 ---------- The politician's motto: If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull***. 2011-10-16 01:37:01 Permalink*
Mayorquimby Posts: 13909 Incept: 2008-09-18 The Archaic Past	2011-10-19: 0.798 ---------- They who wish to hurt you, work within the law. - Morrissey Gold is theft. 2011-10-27 19:29:59 Permalink
Widgeon Posts: 13481 Incept: 2007-08-30 Region formerly known as the United States	0.810 2011-11-11 07:47:39 Permalink

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