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Gmak
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http://suddendebt.blogspot.com/2009/01/l....

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Friday, January 9, 2009
Linked: Bonds and FX

A friend from the broker community called me a couple of days ago and asked me what I thought about the dollar, i.e. its value against foreign exchange (in this case the euro). I replied that I was pretty much a euro/dollar agnostic these days, but that my gut told me the dollar would appreciate against most major currencies. My view surprised her because her first take was that the US needs to keep the dollar low to boost exports and thus help revive the economy .


I don't disagree on the need for exports, but my analysis is based on another, much more pressing need. With $1 trillion plus budget deficits projected for several years, the US must sell a record amount of bonds to cover the gaps. Who will buy them?

Domestic investors cannot raise the money. If the personal saving rate was to rise to 5% of disposable personal income (see chart below) - and stayed there - the amounts involved would be less than one half of what is required to finance the deficits. And even this assumes that all savings would go to US Treasurys - a completely unrealistic expectation.

So, a very large amount of bonds will have to be purchased by foreigners, many of whom have fiscal problems of their own, right now. How to make US bonds attractive to them? For a foreign investor, total return on dollar-denominated bonds comes from three sources:

(a) Interest payments,
(b) Capital gains (or losses) and,
(c) Foreign exchange gains (or losses).

Let's look at each one..


Interest rates are near record lows: right now the 5-year note yields 1.6% and the 10-year bond 2.4%. Not exactly designed to attract precious capital, they currently reflect fear instead of a sensible rate of return on long-term investment.
The prospect for capital gains/losses is a corollary of the above: bond yields can't really fall below 0%, at least not for long. And since we are already close to 0%, capital gains will be hard to come by in the future.
This leaves (c), gains on foreign exchange. Given the poor prospects for (a) and (b), an appreciating dollar is key to attracting foreign investors, in my opinion.
Now, I'm not talking about a "zooming" dollar, you understand. But even a 5% "steady" appreciation against, say, the euro would make US bonds quite a good proposition for a foreigner in this environment of limited investment choices.

Posted by Hellasious at Friday, January 09, 2009
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I see the logic clearly and I agree with it. However this assumes the Treasury can actually "control" the supply/demand longer term. Do you think this possible?

I don't.

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This seems like a conundrum to me. If the government/Fed agreed with this theory, then it would make the most sense to let deflation run its course and infuse the dollar with more buying power (at the sacrifice of more painful debt). However, the men in charge seem intent on pumping as many dollars as possible into the system in order to temper deflation, hence reducing the value of the dollar. So on one hand we have a strong dollar and attractive bonds, but debt is harder to pay in a relative way. On the other hand, we're faced with a weaker dollar and "cheaper" debt, but no alternative source of income. Kinda seems like one of those "we're screwed no matter what we do" type situations.

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On paper, financial institutions around the globe showed Assets=Liabilities on their books.

Often, the liabilities were dollar deposits. For assets to match these liabilities, they turned to GSEs and MBSs etc, which turned out to be toxic and valued at pennies on the dollar. Hence Assets ($) <<< Liabilities ($$$$). Via the public sector treasuries, these banks needed dollars, hence the CB swaps at one point.

Dollar strength will go on until these banks either go bankrupt, or are restored to solvency.

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http://www.bis.org/publ/qtrpdf/r_qt0903f....

From http://macro-man.blogspot.com/2009/03/co....

See PDF. It's shortage of USD. Massive shortage of USD. (Sorry, Junkyard is getting quite sick of sheeple talk outside TF that deals with USD being relatively strong as a haven)

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Thanks Junkyard,

I was looking for such a link. And it's hard to argue with the BIS.
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