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User Info US, SK and Japan naval exercise next week; entered at 2012-06-16 06:10:20
Ben
Posts: 6214
Registered: 2009-10-09 The Distant, Glorious, Past
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China fought regionally in the past, so they will simply be content with regional dominance? Get real.


You are simply ignorant and incorrect.

Chinese and Asian History needs to be mandatory in High School as clearly few know it. I certainly did not 10 years ago.

In 1405, Zheng He and the Ming Dynasty amassed the world's largest armada up to that time. Both in the scale of the fleet and the size of the vessels, they were unmatched until the vast navies of WWII.

This armada traveled as far as Ethiopia and the Red sea and Mecca and Medina. They had no intent on conquest but rather setting up tribute bases and bringing leaders back to Ming to pay tribute. When confronted and refused tribute they would fight, but not conquer. In 1425 a very short lived emporer pulled the plug on the voyages and finances. They turned around before rounding Africa and heading to Europe.

A few years later in 1433 the finances of the empire contracted, the ships were scrapped, and China receded to look within.

Had these vessels merely APPEARED at major European ports, China would have conquered all of Europe without a shot.

The vessels were 3X the size of current technology in Europe.

3X.

Yet China had the tech, but did not use it to conquer India, Thailand, etc. They merely reconquered previously held regional territory contiguous to the Mainland (Manchuria, Tibet, Kazakhstan, Northern Vietnam, Korea), etc. and demanded tribute. That's different than conquering.

They had no global ambitions even though they had the ability.

Again, as an American you project your own view onto others.

We, Americans, build stuff then justify its use in war.

You then assume the Chinese will do the same when we already have examples that your conclusion is simply wrong.

They had the world's greatest navy, but they did not try to conquer the world with it.

Settle scores?
Hold sway over the China Sea and the 1st Ring of Islands?
Be the regional power?
Force the Americans out in to the Pacific?

Yes, definitely.

Conquer the world as the British and Americans did?

I think not.

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Chinese gonna rip **** up when they can globally project power. It's just human nature


Well, they could have from 1405-1433 and they did not.

Last modified: 2012-06-16 06:18:09 by ben

2012-06-16 06:10:20