Stinkydrunk,
Do I need to bring up your prior posts about the great growth that is taking place in Detroit that you stated 6 or so months ago? They are currently debating their solvency as a city if at all?

You have zero credibility. I would guess you work for the criminal Gibert .Who is an evil man to his core.

**** him and **** you.

Bring up whatever you want Rule. If you have to resort to character assassination, you should be very comfortable helping to get Obozo another 4 years.

Personally, I do not think Obama has much of a chance this go-round. Romney will win this erection. The "peepull" will have spoken, and so the the Republicrat will take his turn in office. A few will notice that nothing much changes, except for the worse. There's no stopping this slide into worldwide statist bliss. Just enjoy the ride.
Remember to make yourself small. Maybe you can fit through the cogs that grind the larger particles into dust.

Nice to see Gen's Ticker today on this subject. All of you who argue that "if you don't vote, you can't complain" miss the whole point: if you do vote, you give your personal sanction to the fraud of the demo publican charade. There's only ONE party people, wake up!

My last on this.

Wow, I have put about three people on ignore just in this thread.

The soviet people stopped voting too once they figured out it was a sham. How exactly did they benefit from abstaining? By sending a message to the Politburo? Do you think the Politburo really gave a flying **** about their refusal to vote or about their message? Do you think you're going to shame Congress by not voting? How exactly is that a 'win'? Do you consider it a moral victory or something? Please elaborate.

It has to do with just saying **** IT , **** YOU, AND **** YOUR SYSTEM! It make no differnce so why bother , its a continuous hand job thats all it is , It feels good but there is no satisfaction.

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The soviet people stopped voting too once they figured out it was a sham. How exactly did they benefit from abstaining? By sending a message to the Politburo? Do you think the Politburo really gave a flying **** about their refusal to vote or about their message? Do you think you're going to shame Congress by not voting? How exactly is that a 'win'? Do you consider it a moral victory or something? Please elaborate.

They cared about it enough to toss people in jail if they didn't vote. To vote in a rigged system means you think the system is actually illegitimate. Once people gave up on the idea that they could fix things through voting other alternatives to shifting the status quo became clear. In Russia this was people no longer working hard at their jobs and caring about world communism. In Poland it was the farmers doing everything they could not to turn over most of their food to the government. People voted with their money and work ethic once it became clear that voting through the ballet box didn't do ****.

The faster people come to realize they have no political power and the system is a sham, the soon they will know that despite not having any political power that you do economic, military, and personal power to shape our communities. I just read that groups of people in Greece have started enforcing migration laws that the government refuses to enforce. While they're helpless at the ballot box, they still have the power to do what's right for their own community and they're starting to do it.

This is my response,that I posted under Karl's "Lesser Evils" Ticker and I'm sticking with it...

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It's bad enough having to endure the deafening crescendo of Romney/Ryan-gasms, from the Republican Apparachiks. What's more concerning is this insistence that "not voting for Rinse & Repeat is a vote for Obama".

Correct me if I'm wrong, but what is being suggested is that, once again, this November, our best course of action is to continue to fight moral relativism with "strategic" moral relativism--to pull the lever for the "less evil" candidate.

THAT is extremely flawed thinking, and we need to break out of this vicious cycle.

The truth of the matter is that we have already lost--and if you can't see this, you are denying history.

We have been losing incrementally for decades, under this "two party, good cop-bad cop, scheme", because of our willingness to settle for the most electable, "lesser of evils" candidates.

How can a system, that is based on God-given laws, "inalienable rights" and "self evident truths" about life, liberty, and the "pursuit of happiness"(ahem...property), survive, much less pretend to exist, when we continue to promote, vote for, and elect people who believe these "truths", and the "laws of the land" are completely subjective, and selectively enforceable?

The definition of insanity, folks, is doing the same thing over, and over, expecting different results.

It's hard to believe that this group of diverse, (seemingly) bright individuals, that has continuously posted thousands of topics about repeated evils and malfeasance, that have been foisted upon us from "both sides of the aisle" (and abroad), FOR YEARS, would subscribe to such bull****.

The charade of choice in voting for these pre-ordained, "birds-of a-feather", candidates is ridiculous in itself, and is worthy of its own discussion.

Continuing to accept, promote, and vote for the pre-ordained candidates that espouse the lesser, deviant variance on what "is is", what "shall or shall not" means, or who represents the lesser moral hazard--this is not winning!

It's called compromising your value system, which is losing, in my book.

That being said, if the measure of our success as a country is simply "a Republic, if you can keep it" -- then we have already failed this great American experiment, miserably.

Given what has transpired over the past several decades, I don't believe at this stage in the "football game"(as it has been compared), that it really matters if we "get another chance to move the ball closer to our end-zone".

Adding to this analogy, I think that where we are, now, is more comparable to the football game in "The Longest Yard", with a not-so-happy ending.

Best case scenario, by voting for the "lesser evil", we achieve a short term, pseudo-victory, in this "game of prison football", only to take off our pads and return to our cells--hardly a "win" for the good guys.

In between these "football games" or election cycles, the evil/lesser evil wardens and their guards continue to build and reinforce the "prison walls", and strip away our daily freedoms.

Unless we promptly address things, and force an abrupt paradigm shift, back towards the Founders original intentions, we will never truly prevail over the "evil/lesser of evil wardens, and their team of guards"--we will never again be free.

Please remember that people in Haiti, Venezuela, Iran, China, Cuba, etc., etc., vote, too.

Don't confuse the "effort of voting", with results.

Ghopper:

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If everyone stayed home in November, the networks would still announce record turnouts.

So true. Proof:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/....

How bout everyone turn out and then NOT vote. Demonstrably so. Go in and have your name crossed off the registrar's list so no one else can claim your identity and take your "vote." Then publicly make a point of leaving without entering the voting booth, announcing you will not return.
If 25 million did that, it'd leave a mark.
Alternatively, just vote for the state and local issues, and write-in Ron Paul. Then announce loudly outside the polling place your feelings about the Demopublican bought-and-paid-for system.
If 25 million did that, it'd make the funny papers.

Just one more:

http://lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer26....

The Money Line: "With Ron Paul removed from the contest by the political establishment owners, intelligent minds know that the presidential race collapses into the default mode governing all such make-believe "choices." The electorate will again be bamboozled into making a selection between Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber, being fed the League of Women Voters’ unfocused line "it doesn't matter who you vote for, just vote." A variation of this theme is found in the equally vacuous admonition to choose between "the lesser of two evils." That the 2008 campaign was conducted on the theme "anybody but Bush," while the 2012 race urges "anybody but Obama," should inform us of the utter moral and intellectual bankruptcy of the game being played at the expense of all of humanity."

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"We're really seeing the greatest gain in people registering as no party, independents, or some other party like Liberterian, Reform, Green or something like that,"

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