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Vitchilo Posts: 4626 Incept: 2011-04-27	Great ***ing idea... http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/.... Quote: Report: State Dept. Considers Eliminating US Nuclear Arsenal Although President Obama's current defense cuts are so drastic that even Rep. Nancy Pelosi is scared they might cost Democrats more seats in the House, State Dept. advisers are reportedly encouraging further cuts and even the all-out elimination of the U.S. nuclear arsenal. A State Dept. report addressing this issue justifies the suggestion on the grounds that possessing nuclear weapons drives other nations to "acquisition and/or use of nuclear weapons." Right. Unilateral elimination of nukes... yeah that will end sooooooo well. ---------- "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken 2012-08-25 03:47:37 Permalink*
Vars Posts: 487 Incept: 2009-06-28 Online	Infrastructure destroying weapons are old school. 2012-08-25 04:48:25 Permalink
Tinman Posts: 211 Incept: 2008-02-16	If collapse or breakup of the US is a real concern it might be a good idea to get rid of those before the event. Who would possess the weapons in the event of a state revolt? I'm looking at you Dakotas. If you don't hold it you don't own it. Amirite? 2012-08-25 08:13:13 Permalink
Mayorquimby Posts: 13909 Incept: 2008-09-18 The Archaic Past	Putin would paint the ceiling. ---------- They who wish to hurt you, work within the law. - Morrissey Gold is theft. 2012-08-25 08:14:16 Permalink
Vitchilo Posts: 4626 Incept: 2011-04-27	Quote: Putin would paint the ceiling. With American blood? ---------- "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken 2012-08-25 08:18:58 Permalink
Zzt Posts: 3038 Incept: 2007-06-26 Glendale az	If , and when , we dump our nukes.............you can bet they are obsolete. 2012-08-25 10:27:38 Permalink
Bozonian Posts: 19889 Incept: 2007-09-01 Saratoga Springs, New York	They probably have stuff now that makes nukes look like sling shots: satellite beams that can kill every living thing instantly over hundreds of square miles, simply by causing dissolution of some essential protein. Maser weapons like something that pulverized steel in those big buildings. Gigaton nuclear warheads. This old stuff might be getting too expensive to maintain and the new and improved planet busting technology can serve as sufficient deterrent. ---------- Forget about blaming, fighting with, or crediting other people. The only real challenge in life, is with yourself. -- Me Everything I write is my opinion and not to be considered proven fact. Nothing I write should be considered financial advice. 2012-08-25 12:23:30 Permalink
Arpwatch Posts: 3051 Incept: 2009-11-06	The X-37B testing must have gone well, eh? 2012-08-25 12:33:23 Permalink
Bozonian Posts: 19889 Incept: 2007-09-01 Saratoga Springs, New York	Not to worry! Boz is working on more advanced Tin Foil Hat technology. In the meantime you can pick up one of these surplus. It'll give you protection from mind control positronic emissions even though it's a bit unwieldy. ---------- Forget about blaming, fighting with, or crediting other people. The only real challenge in life, is with yourself. -- Me Everything I write is my opinion and not to be considered proven fact. Nothing I write should be considered financial advice. 2012-08-25 14:44:07 Permalink
Ben Posts: 6214 Incept: 2009-10-09 The Distant, Glorious, Past	Boz is Diver Dan. The mystery is solved! ---------- "Why are you going to learn French?" "Because I'm going to France," says Joe. "I'm from the future. You should go to China." 2012-08-27 03:20:14 Permalink
Darth Posts: 2182 Incept: 2009-07-07 SWVA - US	'Antimatter', FTW!!! 2012-08-27 14:00:51 Permalink
Lk Posts: 13200 Incept: 2008-03-13 DC - VA Online	Here's the report http://www.state.gov/documents/organizat.... 2012-08-27 14:06:58 Permalink
Fraudster Posts: 4175 Incept: 2011-05-10	If they can point to a tangible system that has the same power as a nuke, that renders nukes obsolete, then fine. Otherwise this is just yellow-belly, rollover mentality. Just think of how many countries would just love to settle an old score... ---------- *"Let China sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world."* - Napoleon Bonaparte *"Circulation ceases first at the outer edges [Europe and Japan]. It will take a while yet for the decay to reach the heart [America]."* - Foundation & Empire by Isaac Asimov 2012-08-27 14:18:46 Permalink
Jackl Posts: 2237 Incept: 2008-01-17	Maybe star wars really is complete/functional, and not just in this country. I know I know. How well can any counter measure system handle 100s if not 1000s of incoming missiles? Maybe be just a voter grab. You know the ones who think if the US gets rid of it's nukes, the rest of the world will magically follow? 2012-08-27 15:39:56 Permalink
Gollum Posts: 755 Incept: 2011-07-31 Wyoming	It's not a state department decision anyway. 2012-08-27 15:44:56 Permalink
Lk Posts: 13200 Incept: 2008-03-13 DC - VA Online	^ Of course not. Do note William Perry, though, former Sec Defense 2012-08-27 15:52:13 Permalink
Agau Posts: 4941 Incept: 2010-06-04	Really The military is not going to take instructions from State. They report to the Pres 2012-08-27 16:13:55 From PDA Permalink
Asimov Posts: 104048 Incept: 2007-08-26 East Tennessee Eastern Time	I can't help but think that they have something even more powerful now (or just as powerful and cleaner.) ---------- It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity. If you trade based on what other people say, you will lose money. Especially what I say. I won't be held responsible. Festina lente. 2012-08-27 16:38:36 Permalink
Zzt Posts: 3038 Incept: 2007-06-26 Glendale az	How long did we have the SR-71 before the world knew about it ? I believe we have something up our sleeves ( cool toys ) but what they are who knows ? Yup I could be wrong but if so WTF have we really been spending all those defense dollars on ? 2012-08-27 18:37:35 Permalink
Bozonian Posts: 19889 Incept: 2007-09-01 Saratoga Springs, New York	Let's see. Civilian aircraft haven't materially changed since the 1960s. Standard combat hasn't changed much, just incremental improvements on tanks, rifles, communications and tactics really. I say the advances that we should be seeing are being hidden and the military is probably 40 to 50 years ahead of where we think it is. ---------- Forget about blaming, fighting with, or crediting other people. The only real challenge in life, is with yourself. -- Me Everything I write is my opinion and not to be considered proven fact. Nothing I write should be considered financial advice. Last modified: 2012-08-27 23:55:14 by bozonian 2012-08-27 23:54:44 Permalink
Downrange Posts: 5385 Incept: 2007-09-26 Just Say No to RomnobamaDingDong! Online	@ Boz, I NEED one of those helmets! ---------- "If this is how the state treats its law-abiding citizens, it doesn't deserve to have any" A. Solzhenitzen 2012-08-28 00:31:49 Permalink
Ben Posts: 6214 Incept: 2009-10-09 The Distant, Glorious, Past	Boz is right. We only know what they want us to see and even the Raptor cannot demonstrate full capability at airshows. There is likely some crazy stuff out there. ---------- "Why are you going to learn French?" "Because I'm going to France," says Joe. "I'm from the future. You should go to China." 2012-08-28 00:45:08 Permalink
Markgoldman Posts: 1241 Incept: 2009-01-13 Canuckistan	OR, we hit the laws of physics already and whats left takes an order of magnitude to get right. ---------- Consent Withdrawn. 2012-08-28 02:02:35 Permalink
Ckaminski Posts: 1586 Incept: 2011-04-08	Quote: Raptor cannot demonstrate full capability at airshows Because it'll kill the pilots. Sorry, if we had something better than Nukes the civil scientists would have a whiff of it. 2012-08-28 11:12:11 Permalink
Anti Posts: 4300 Incept: 2007-10-09	Even if we have something better, it hasn't been demonstrated to the world. It was that demo back in 1945 that has kept everyone in line for lo these many years. ---------- Health is better than health insurance http://gerson.org/ Over the past 60 years, thousands of people have used the Gerson Therapy to recover from so-called �incurable� diseases such as cancer, diabetes, heart disease and arthritis. 2012-08-28 11:31:13 Permalink

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