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Goldbrick
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Indiana
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As far as I'm concerned, anyone who voluntarily raises their hand and swears out an oath to uphold the law, and then proceeds to make a mockery of the law, needs to be treated harshly. Bad cops, bad judges and bad politicians must be put away for a long time, and I don't mean at Club Fed, such as the country club at Oxford, Wisconsin, where half the crooks in Crook County, Ill. wind up.

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"The higher I go, the crookeder it gets."
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2009-09-11 19:49:55
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Docj
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BTW Karl - sorry my first post was so snarky. You're my first read every morning, followed by Zerohedge - then, if I have time, I'll listen to some news on my way to work!

So with my second post please let me echo what Mattdtr said just above - much appreciation for all you do. Keep up the great work!

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.
2009-09-11 19:50:58
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Mrgone
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As if anyone gives a crap
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Joe,

I have seen the enemy and it is us. I have not given in but I am resigned. I am not hopeless but am planning for me and my family to the extent I can. I am learning new skills, stocking some food, medicine etc, buying weapons for the first time in my life and other such activities. If none of this happens, then I have not lost much. In regards to your Bible reference, it has never served me and I sincerely doubt it ever will. If it makes you happy, go for it, just please don't point it in my direction.

In a way I am optimistic. I believe that the coming change is necessary, in fact it may lead to the next evolutionary step that civilization needs. It may not, but one can "hope." You see to me, the real life dominant life form on Earth is not man but civilization. Man is a constant, it is society which changes and evolves.

I also disagree that we are on the "opposite" sides of the fence. The way I see it is that we are all in the "same boat." We just don't act like it.

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“I hope we shall... crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our government in a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
— Thomas Jefferson, 1816
Sorry about that Tom
2009-09-11 19:51:46
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Mo
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There have always been thieving politicians.

What's different is, this crop doesn't CARE if we know.

In the past, politicians were afraid of voters.

Now they're not.

Why not?

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"The World has been cancelled. It doesn't even look like the world. There is one island that is maintained and is said to be owned by the Sheikh and the rest looks like a pile of muck."
2009-09-11 19:52:57
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Gamma
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"VOMIT" is not a negative...it's a standard acronym for "Variety of Market Indeterminate Terms" and is usually rated AAA. Or above. Din't you know dat?

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It's better to donate a Ford to the Kidney Foundation than a Kidney to the Ford Foundation.
2009-09-11 19:53:39
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Musashi
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Behind the Irony Curtain
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Same user name and password you use to log into the forum.

2009-09-11 19:57:11
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Icecastle
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Falcor, I notice that my TickerForum login ID and password suffice.

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Mala tempora currunt.
2009-09-11 19:57:58
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Falcor
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I was just able to get through to the CFP site - MT may be generating some interest because I was timed out in previous attempts.

If anyone hasn't seen docs, there' on CFP link in ticker.

2009-09-11 20:02:06
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Falcor
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Thanks about the login info. I was thinking more about folks reading the ticker who don't have gold stars.

Yet!

2009-09-11 20:05:08
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Moonoverseattle
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MOTEL 6
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farther than anyone can imagine. Bulking dough out of this **** hole. Good luck one and all. No offense to Gen but I keep loading up on gold and silver. Do I think its going lower yep - deflation. But in the meantime wtf load up load up and load up.

Already have all the other ****. Will take my chances with gold and silver


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A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.
2009-09-11 20:08:01
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Bagbalm
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I have some gold too - not a preserve my wealth kind of gold but - hand to a farmer and get enough to eat for a week kind of gold.

2009-09-11 20:30:20
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Truthseeker
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I just finished a long conversation with my 93-year-old father-in-law, who hung on every word as I read the ticker aloud to him and his daughter. He was quiet and thoughtful, and then began to speak of the great depression, and his version of the "banking trust" that brought it about.

And finally, he said, (paraphrasing) "Sure you can move down to the farm and learn how to take care of yourselves, but you can't hide from this. You have to decide, right now, how you'll respond when the populace rises up, or the jackboots come for you, or when your money is worthless. The bastards have done it again, and it sounds like this time its worse. Better gear up, I have."

Damn near made me cry.

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"The real leech****s are not the welfare people, but the paper shufflers in privileged positions who are skimming the money flows."
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2009-09-11 20:40:19
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Bsaxberg
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Im damn near ready to vote 1776 style..... this is INSANE absolutely criminally INSANE.

2009-09-11 20:41:22
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Ponzi_unit
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Truthseeker, wow. Genesis, your tickers keep getting better and sadly that's because our situation is getting worse and worse. Keep up the good fight ya'll.

2009-09-11 20:43:43
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Truthseeker
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With no offense intended to Mrgone, I have struggled from time to time with the feelings that anything I could do was not enough in the face of this abomination. I have used the ticker forum not only to access news faster than nearly anywhere else on the net, and to listen in on conversations with folks who have VAST knowledge of investment instruments and their use, but also to challenge myself to examine my thesis, to question my frame of reference, to check in on my activity list. Does it support your thesis? Does it have value in the world (and to your family)? CAN YOU DO MORE?

I claim no crystal ball, and am genuinely sad at how thoroughly the foundations of our country have been eroded.

I don't know what's coming or in what order. But I work every day to starve the beast that is sucking us dry, and show a light in the dark corners occupied by this particular octopus.

Delighted to be a guest in this house.

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"The real leech****s are not the welfare people, but the paper shufflers in privileged positions who are skimming the money flows."
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2009-09-11 20:50:12
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Moonoverseattle
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TRUTHSEEKER - SOUNDS LIKE WHAT MY DAD WOULD SAY - HE HAS BEEN GONE A FEW YEARS. WENT UP AND PAID HIM A VISIT...... SEEKING WISDOM FROM THE GRAVE. YOUR DAMN LUCKY TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO HIM - WISH I COULD TALK TO MINE.


THANKS

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A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.
2009-09-11 21:13:10
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Genesis
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Here are the documents referred to from the other thread.



RNC Cert

DNC Cert 2

DNC Cert 1

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"The monetary base in ALL modern monetary systems is the sum of unencumbered assets against which one is both WILLING AND ABLE to borrow." - Me
2009-09-11 21:14:11
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Jstanley01
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Truthseeker's Father-in Law wrote..
Sure you can move down to the farm and learn how to take care of yourselves, but you can't hide from this. You have to decide, right now, how you'll respond when the populace rises up, or the jackboots come for you, or when your money is worthless. The bastards have done it again, and it sounds like this time its worse. Better gear up, I have.
I LOVE it! 93 or not, I wouldn't want to be downrange of his muzzle.

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...so in short, my fellow Texans, we must secede. "For the children..." --Me
2009-09-11 21:14:21
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Widgeon
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OK
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Always Enjoy Your Thoughts Truthseeker. Always.

2009-09-11 21:15:42
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Widgeon
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My Dad was Born in '35. When I first began expressing my alarm over what was happening, probably in 2004/05, told him a Depression was coming ... he told me "it couldn't happen because it never had." I was speechless ... he was born in 1935. I know good and darn well that discussion of the Depression permeated his childhood because his Mom & Dad loved to tell stories about it and I loved to hear them. How could he say that the Depression couldn't happen because there never had been one? That's how powerful the appearance of this credit induced wealth is ... people even deny their own past because it couldn't have happened.

My Mom thinks I'm certifiable. I do get pretty intense. Anyway, she says she's not worried about any Depression because she went through that already and everything was just fine. Oi Vei, she was born in 1937. Her contribution to helping her family through the Depression was soiling diapers ... but somehow she thinks actually lived and contributed through it.

That's my family.

2009-09-11 21:23:54
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Tristan
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Cleveland
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The line I've been getting now is, "it doesn't matter." People aren't going to change their lives because something "might happen." Since I can't peer into my cauldron and say that there will be violence in the streets, famine, destitution, theft, and murder, there is somehow no point in even discussing it. I'm bringing everyone down and they are tired of it.

Thank God for you people here.

2009-09-11 21:44:23
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Truthseeker
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Thanks for the kind words, Widgeon. I honestly never know for sure which posts (if any) will have the impact I intend. Glad that something has struck a chord.

Grandpa took me into his room a few minutes ago, and unearthed about 5,000 rounds of ammunition to go with the 12 guns in the cabinet. He offered one of the shotguns and a case of ammo to take out to the RV.

He's taking this one pretty seriously. Hope I haven't stirred up a hornet's nest with his other offspring (the ones that don't live here.) But I am seriously considering his generous offer.

(Oh, and my nephew just called with an offer to refill any and all of our 'brass' with his equipment. Good kid. He gets it.)

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"The real leech****s are not the welfare people, but the paper shufflers in privileged positions who are skimming the money flows."
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2009-09-11 22:02:47
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Pojo
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Awesome ticker.
Can i comment only on the Obama cert thing?
The real question is not if it is in the doc,. It is importnat only if it hides something. It could just be a mistake. obviously the typist was a sandwich short of a picnic.

Running with that as proof that he is not eligible is tin-foil.

The question is if it is true that he is not eligible.
If he is uncertifiable, then he should be removed.

There is a court case coming up in cali in jan 2010, right?


2009-09-11 22:03:28
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Captaintrade
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The United States Constitution was destroyed and rendered nothing more than an artifact on Inauguration Day, January, 2009. On that day, an individual who knowingly did not meet one of the chief requirements for becoming President of the United States of America, took the oath of office, thereby rendering the document violated and meaningless.

An individual cannot protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America from all enemies both foreign and domestic if that individual knowingly violates said Constitution by the very act of taking the oath of office. When this oath was administered with the tacit support of all three branches of the government, the citizenry in general and the media in particular, the country as a whole declared at that precise moment that the United States Constitution did not matter. With unanimous consent it was agreed that the United States Constitution is, in fact, meaningless.

We now live in a new era. It is an era when an individual can pick and choose which parts of the Constitution are or are not to be considered in effect. The Republic, as it once was known, no longer exists.

The system of government under which we now live is "democrazy".

Bye, Bye, Miss American Pie

- Don Mclean


P.S. "There is still time to follow the Von Trapps over the Alps."

2009-09-11 22:03:55
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Genesis
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Quote:
The real question is not if it is in the doc,. It is importnat only if it hides something. It could just be a mistake. obviously the typist was a sandwich short of a picnic.

Really?

Then how come the other copy, the one actually signed (and which is supposed to be distributed UNALTERED to the states) on the day of convention - is correct?

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2009-09-11 22:08:14
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