I have waited my entire life to see this on television:








"[Alex Jones] isn't worth five grams of Glenn Beck's fingernail clippings." -- Moi

This must have fried some brain cells yesterday. Fascism, socialism and communism slight variations on the same theme? Mein Gott!

Those were very good.

All the 'isms' are now nothing but fronts for Eugenics. That includes Capitalism and Liberalism.

It's all vested interest, which is all that Politics is.

As big a fan of Ronald Reagan as I am, he was wrong about Government being 'the Problem'.

We establish Governments, Constitutions, and the Rule of Law, to protect us from Politicians (to bind them and regulate them to the degree they can do no real damage), and to defend Human Rights and Human Liberties, such as the Right to Life, the Right to Liberty, the Right to Property, building Laws around them, so Citizens have Freedom under the Law.

Hence the truth of "If the Law makes the King, then the King is subject to the Law".

Politics is about denying those things, and stealing those things from us, for the benefit of vested interest.

We must stop teaching the criminal handbook known as Political Philosophy, and reintroduce the teaching of Constitutional Philosophy.

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All the 'isms' are now nothing but fronts for Eugenics. That includes Capitalism...

Ribbit, please don't hurt yourself by making me beat you for interjecting a fake definition of capitalism.

This show was, quite possibly, one of the best things I have ever seen on television. I think they did a really good job especially doing it in less than an hour.
I always wondered why they never taught us about the commies in grade school (I graduated 22 yrs ago so I'm sure they REALLY do not teach it nowadays). I had to learn on my own and what I found really shocked me to some extent. I hated seeing che on someone's shirt or mao for that matter. I cringed when I saw a red star on something. It's even hard for me to use red star yeast in the bread I make..lol.
I still did not know much about the ukranian starvation though. I knew it happened but never saw it described in such detail. Seeing the interviews with yukashenko (sp?) and the old ukranian woman brings it home. It just reaffirms my belief that commies suck and should be eliminated from the human race. The commie wannabe's that we have in the US would probably have a change of heart if they really had to live under some crap like that.

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defend Human Rights and Human Liberties, such as the Right to Life, the Right to Liberty, the Right to Property

If we had a right to property, the government couldn't tax it, anymore than it could tax life or liberty or free speech.

The great line was "the difference between hitler and Stalin was the difference between coke and pepsi"

plus the the very fact they discussed 100 million killed by the commies is ground breaking stuff

Glenn Beck is a Alex Jones wannabe.

I'm not trying to be an ******* here (well maybe a little) but is that all you have? comparing glenn beck to alex jones?

I don't listen to alex jones so I cannot make the same comparison. I knew about Glenn Beck long before I ever heard the name alex jones.

So who butters your ideological bread? Chairman mao or George Washington?

Do you have anything intelligent to contribute to the thread? Thank you.

Madashel, in the mind of the moonbat, capitalists (whom they consider synonymous with usury, or bank-lending at interest) are worse than mass-murderers. In fact, they will always seek to reveal that "money" is behind all genocides (thus the fixation with "financiers" behind Stalin or Hitler, as if the sheer will to slaughter millions was a side-effect of being paid). Thus their obsession with the Bilderbergers.

Case-in-point: The troofer ****nozzles over at Infowars.eat**** have already jumped on Beck's Revolutionary Holocaust to attack it for not dwelling upon the "influence" of bankers who gave money to Lenin, et al. That's right: the first full treatment of socialist genocides ever in the mainstream media isn't good enough for them because it didn't blame capitalist financiers!

Down at their core, troofers in particular and moonbats in general are defenders of socialism who reflexively promote old Soviet propaganda and extrapolate it forward into ever more ridiculous allegations. In their minds, the US government is more unspeakably evil than Russia ever was to McCarthy; for them it is responsible for everything from "fake" terrorist incidents to AIDS to Haitian earthquakes. (And yet, as much as they profess to despise it, you only need mention "illegal immigrants", and they're suddenly clamoring for a totalitarian state-built new Great Wall of China around the country mortared with the blood of wetbacks. -- If liberals have "no enemies on the left", moonbats have "no enemies among racists", which is why they infest the Alex Jones crank fringe, and have hijacked a good portion of it.)

Beck doesn't address international and corporate support behind Hitler over the Stalin backed Communists.Once Trotsky was eliminated by Stalin for being a supporter and successor of Lenins plan of a democratic dictatorship of the proletariat and the peasantry,there was no room for corporations in Russia.Stalin twisted and effectively destroyed Lenins Bolshevik dream.Lenin is still revered and on display in Moscow while Stalin is hated and forgotten as the worms eat his despised corpse.

One must also realize both parties (Nazi,communist) grew out of the horror and economic difficulties brought on by WW1 where many saw the rich and powerful getting wealthy off of the death and misery of millions of the underclassed.Hitler embraced these old moneyed elites and corporations (Krupps ect.) and the Leninists saw them as the problem.I don't think that the Leninists-Trotskites could have prevented Hitlers big business war machine from conquering Russia though.
Our leaders saw the Krupp corporation dynasty as something that had to be utterly destroyed after the war.

In 1968 Krupp became a corporation again. In 1999, the Krupp Group merged with its largest competitor, Thyssen AG; the combined company—ThyssenKrupp AG, became Germany's fifth-largest firm and one of the largest steel producers in the world.

Perhaps it will take a third World War and the death of Billions before someone else comes up with another political party opposed to war for profit.
At some point the under classed get tired of seeing their children and neighbors getting stacked up like cord wood.

I guess I need to put that in boldface, and maybe capitalize part of it:

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in the mind of the moonbat, capitalists (whom they consider synonymous with usury, or bank-lending at interest) are worse than mass-murderers. In fact, they will always seek to reveal that "money" is behind all genocides (thus the fixation with "financiers" behind Stalin or Hitler, as if the sheer will to slaughter millions was a side-effect of being paid). Thus their obsession with the Bilderbergers.

Case-in-point: The troofer ****nozzles over at Infowars.eat**** have already jumped on Beck's Revolutionary Holocaust to attack it for not dwelling upon the "influence" of bankers who gave money to Lenin, et al. THAT'S RIGHT: THE FIRST FULL TREATMENT OF SOCIALIST GENOCIDES EVER IN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM BECAUSE IT DIDN'T BLAME CAPITALIST FINANCIERS!

Rubicon wrote..

Perhaps it will take a third World War and the death of Billions before someone else comes up with another political party opposed to war for profit.

Perhaps I should mention Pot Pot, who didn't take money from anybody for the job of murdering one-quarter of Cambodia, or Mao, who murdered his seventy million before Nixon went over the schmooz, to get you to shut up.

Bezzle all sick and dying empires resort to war as a last ditch effort to push GDP.These nations always get outside financing whether they be capitalists or not.
GREED and profit know no party or creed.There's fortunes to be made in killing the human race PERIOD.

Yes I am familiar with the corporate influences on the nazis and soviets. That is a whole other show that would have to address said corporations (iirc Kodak and IBM were a couple of them). There are so many things that are not taught or spoken about that transcend right or left and delve into the realm of human nature itself. Like I said, Beck did a great job giving us a window into the truth about communism in less than an hour. To explore these other aspects would take a miniseries or an epic for that matter. I think it should be done though.

Bezzle I think the biggest problem is that it seems to be very difficult for many people to look past their narrow ideology (right or left) and actually draw a logical conclusion. (I'm not directing the "narrow" part at anyone here; it's just a figure of speech) That is the biggest obstacle for mankind to overcome before any "enlightenment" is realized. I have full faith that mankind will destroy itself long before anything like that were to happen.

Maybe people who called themselves "capitalists" likely did the things Rubicon mentioned. There are bad apples in every bunch. That should not necessarily reflect badly on capitalism itself. The many faults of human nature has more to do with it than any idea or belief. We have people who run america who call themselves capitalists (not saying they are or are not...oligarchs may be a better definition) and they are giving capitalism more of a bad name than a few capitalists in the 30's and 40's who wanted to make a buck and did not care if they sold their soul to do it.

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Bezzle all sick and dying empires resort to war as a last ditch effort to push GDP.

Oh is that what Leonid Brezhnev's Soviet Union was up to when it invaded Afghanistan and ****ed all around in Latin America in the 70s and 80s shortly before collapsing? Addressing their GDP problem?

Bull****.

Brezhnev wasn't really running the country at the time.He was a babbling idiot who was living in the countryside and should have been removed a decade earlier.And yes the USSR needed it to push economic activity since the west refused to meet the Soviets on an open conventional battlefield after WW2.
By containing the USSR we destroyed them.Unfortunately it's the small wars that make or break empires more than the big ones.

"Lenin is still revered and on display "

Rub,

http://blog.kievukraine.info/2009/07/len....

Not in Ukraine.... where Lenin and Trotsky did a practice run on Famine Genocide in 1921 - They killed only 2 million Ukrainians including 500,000 German colonists who were invited by Catherine the Great.

It takes a lot to **** off Amish and Mennonites and their letters back to Germany in the 20's demanded revenge. That was the basis of anti-communist sentiment in Germany.

http://library.ndsu.edu/grhc/order/nd_sd....

Well Mon I never said the Ukrainians had a historical affinity for the Russians.Although over half of the Ukraine to this day more equates themselves as being Russian.It's a big country with a diverse population.The Kulaks saw themselves as being Russian so in effect Stalin was eliminating his own rich farmers who wouldn't bend to his will.
I'm not condoning what he did but the Kulaks were seen as enemies of the peasantry.

Rubicon wrote..

Unfortunately it's the small wars that make or break empires more than the big ones.

Yeah, China really fell all to pieces after invading Vietnam and getting beat. Shame that happening after them being an empire for 3,000 years.

Bull****.

I didn't use that sentence as a one size fits all so stop trying to push me into your one size fits all hole Bezz.
China has been conquered and had many revolutions also in those 3000 yrs.
Saying that a border skirmish equates to a long drawn out war is a little silly.

I read all of this stuff in Boston's Gun Bible about ten years ago. The first thing they do is take away the guns. Glenn Beck needs to mention that.

BTW, there were about 5 million American Indians here that we killed, put on reservations, starved, etc. We also enslaved millions of blacks, stole the western third of this country from Mexico, and killed about 4 million Vietnamese, and a bunch of Koreans too. I won't even get into how many we've killed for cheap oil. The point is Capitalism may be a lesser evil but it is not a benign force for good.

Rubicon wrote..

I didn't use that sentence as a one size fits all so stop trying to push me into your one size fits all hole Bezz.

You mean unlike this "one size fits all" bull****:

Rubicon wrote..

all sick and dying empires resort to war as a last ditch effort to push GDP

...?

Knock it off. I see right through that kind of crap, and will zone in on it every time now matter how much padding it's surrounded by.

So in effect you see brief border skirmishes as equal to mulit decade wars.

Nice train of thought Bezz.

Post #24 sucks.