The Ancient Seed of Destruction
...A pan of water containing a frog is placed upon the stove...

The HMS Titanic was the most magnificent ocean-liner ever built, and state-of-the-art for her time -- but the seeds of her destruction were contained in her very blueprint. Similarly, the seed which will destroy The United States of the America as you've known it all your lives is also contained within its blueprint: http://tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-w....

All events have consequences. The consequence of inferior wrought-iron rivets in the Titanic's steel bow was a luxury ship unexpectedly prone to sinking after a glancing swipe upon an iceberg. The consequence of codifying the power to legally steal within a nation's charter is to doom the country to concerted pernicious attempt to seize control of it by characters of mendacious intent. -- The power to tax is the power to destroy, it has been said; now the power to vote is the power to tax (and hence destroy), and so moral corruption slowly seeps throughout the entire national character rather than being contained solely within a ruling monarch where it is instantly recognizable. I.e., no king could get away with stealing half of everyone's productivity, but "We the People" apparently can.



Prologue to the Present
...the pan begins to warm on a chilly day, and more frogs hop in to enjoy the sauna...

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/group.... Read all side-links on the left of the page.

The tactic, if not ultimate strategy, of Cloward-Piven was hardly unknown before it, however:

H.L. Mencken, in "On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe", pub. 1920, wrote..

"The state, or, to make matters more concrete, the government, consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office. Their principal device to that end is to search out groups who pant and pine for something they can't get, and to promise to give it to them. Nine times out of ten that promise is worth nothing. The tenth time it is made good by looting "A" to satisfy "B". In other words, government is a broker in pillage, and every election is a sort of advanced auction on stolen goods."

If the power to vote is the power to steal, then, self-evidently, controlling the outcome of the vote is the paramount game in town for bad men. E.g., the Woman's Suffrage movement had more on its mind than doubling the voting base with the inclusion of a large class of persons who seldom paid the bills; it had its eye on establishing a direct income-tax and furthering and expanding "nanny" government roles in regulating business (AKA suppression of competition as some industry heads dominate the regulatory boards), entrenching already-claimed fiefdoms (such as the Post Office, whose competition-destroying antics had prompted Lysander Spooner's* seminal No Treason already by 1870) as well as more directly intruding into the personal liberties of the citizenry by arbitrary campaigns against certain types of property (starting with "Demon Rum").

The overriding ambition of the aforementioned characters of mendacious intent was to first entrench themselves by fulfilling a promise (per Mencken above), then spend the other 95% of their time utilizing their legislative majorities to ramrod agendas no citizen would approve of if he could interpret the impenetrable bureaucratese. The Great Depression and oligarchic four-term reign of Franklin Roosevelt mark the apogee of the pre-Cloward-Piven phase.

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysander_Sp....


Frog Stew -- http://tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-w....

http://www.two--four.net/weblog.php?id=P....
http://wcvarones.blogspot.com/2010/03/th....

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The sequence of Obama's major Agenda items was designed to bring this mega-majority about. The Stimulus bill had to be first, because it feathers the financial bed for Democrats' re-election campaigns. Then Health Care had to be next, because if they granted Amnesty first, then the Health Care proposal would appear much more expensive than the bill makes it appear right now (without the 15-30 million new citizens). By the way, (Union) Card-Check, and Cap and Trade are the other 2 pillars of their plan for cementing lasting Democrat Party majorities and dominance.

And thus the final transformation of America into a kleptocratic serfdom will be complete. -- For as long as they prevent revolt or secession, anyway.

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Fake Solutions

-- The productive, liberty-seeking citizen cannot vote his way out of this; http://tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-w.... -- the last hundred-fifty years is evidence enough of the relentless advance of the state at his expense. Tea Parties, SwarmUSAs and other new third parties may seem fresh and exciting (and may be good places to encounter like-minded members of the opposite sex), but they're not going to succeed in their intended purpose, since the bad guys are way, way ahead of them, and have glacial patience.

Notes On A Desperate Futility: http://www.two--four.net/weblog.php?id=P....


"The definition of 'insanity' is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -- Albert Einstein

* Obsessing over designated bogeymen. http://tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-w.... Examples:

-- Complaining about illegal immigration is a complete waste of your time since any associated deleterious effects are symptoms of an out-of-control Ponzi-state, not a cause. (They're simply a tool; if it were not them, another would be found, or created.) Upon amnesty, illegality is no longer an issue, and they'll all be 100% bona-fide Americans with every bit as much granted entitlement to suckle the welfare tit as your average indigenous Octomom and double-dipping public pensioner leech****.

-- Complaining about trade with China, NAFTA, etc., is similarly taking one's focus away from causes to dwell upon symptoms. US government domestic policies make doing business internally unprofitable, and thereby drove industry offshore, whether it be China....or Ontario, where Chevrolet Camaros are fabricated in plants barely over the horizon across Lake Erie from the crumbling ruins of Detroit.

Any solution which consists of agitating for government to "do something" or acquire position within it is a fake solution.

* Ex-pat. The US is a temperate-climate all-four-meaty-seasons paradise. You're not really going to let these *******s steal the best place to live on earth, are you?


Real Solutions

* To hold any realistic hope whatsoever (beyond sheer luck), the first thing you must do is correctly analyze the situation. (That's why I wrote this.)

* Get off the hamster-wheel (pictured above).

If you have not read Atlas Shrugged; now, before the **** has truly hit the fan, is a good time to do so. By "read" it, I mean exactly that. The whole thing, not the Wikipedia entry or Cliff's Notes. Also read Starving the Monkeys (below).



See also "The Philosophy of Liberty":


* Learn a skill which is marketable in a post-TSHTF underground economy, and learn to use Craigslist. Note: This is not as weird as it sounds; for example, if you can shape wood or grow food, you're already set. If you're a wall-street investment adviser, uh....



* Go Galt (AKA "Starve the Beast" or "Shrug"). The is living one's life in such a manner as to consistently deny the fruits of one's productivity to those who would seize it. Minimally, this means employing yourself on a cash basis and dropping off the tax grid; do not own real-estate or "luxury bling". Don't vote; don't pay; get off "lists".



* Civil Disobedience. -- Network with like-minded persons, and be ready and able to support each other quickly. A couple hundred people anywhere can throw a monkey-wrench into almost anything. But be mindful of fake solutions -- virtually all mass-gatherings are organized by groups which hope to influence political processes, NOT disobey already implemented laws. Example: marching on Washington to attend a rally to legalize pot is a fake solution; a thousand people each lighting up a joint in a park simultaneously is civil disobedience.



* Covert Disobedience. -- You'll know the time: It'll be when government is not only heedless of peaceful civil disobedience, but actively ups the ante by persecuting the participants.




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Starving the Monkeys -- http://starvingthemonkeys.com/ShowBook.h....

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Are you prepared for the greatest crisis in American history? Not if you haven't read Starving the Monkeys.

You're being lied to. By everyone on both sides of the political aisle. Liberals tell us that Obama's socialism will bring a glorious new era. Conservatives tell us that it won't, but we just need to vote Republican to solve the problem. And they all claim to believe that the current system can be salvaged. Don't kid yourself. The system can't go on much longer. But by reading this book, you can be prepared. In it, you'll learn:

* Why voting shouldn't be your primary tool, and how voting for even reformed incumbents only makes things worse.
* How protest movements can become a dead-end without a plan for individual action.
* How and why the system seeks to destroy anyone who thinks for himself.
* Why you need much more preparation than gold and guns, or heading for the hills.
* How to carve out personal and financial independence without attracting attention, while you prepare for the coming crisis.
* How to be worthy of assistance during and after a collapse.

All this, and much, much more is in Starving the Monkeys. Some call it a 21st century version of Atlas Shrugged. Others find it chilling. But for those who are ready to face the greatest crisis in our history, Starving the Monkeys is a book full of promise and real hope.

Tom Baugh Interview with Free Talk:

Liberty Forum speech Part 1 - Introduction, The Problem, Defining Liberty, Ineffective Strategies Live:

Liberty Forum speech Part 2 - The Enemies of Liberty, The Myth of Justice, Offender Registries, Nothing Left to Lose:

Liberty Forum speech Part 3 - Tyranny of the Nice, This is Not a Civil Rights Era, The Myth of Oaths, Liberty Versus Civility, No Cold Dead Hands:

Liberty Forum speech Part 4 - Who the Enemies of Liberty Are NOT, Our Battleground, The Font of Value, Quality of Life, Friend or Foe, Corporatism:

Liberty Forum speech Part 5 - Regulation Surfers, The Myth of Sheeple, Beneficiaries of the Status Quo, They Surround Us:

Liberty Forum speech Part 6 - Where Ayn Rand Was Wrong, Unstoppable Crisis, Worse Than ..., Irreparable Economic Damage

Liberty Forum speech Part 7 - Scrapping of Infrastructure, Lessons Learned, IRS Hockey Stick, Take Heart, Anatomy of a Crisis, Influencing the Recovery, Stone Soup, The Myth of Labor Value, The Value of Ideas ... Liberty Forum speech

Part 8 - Schools and Obedience, The Value of Ideas, The Myth of Gold and Silver, Investment Versus Speculation, The Mythical Prepared Retreat, Individual Preparation, Conclusion, Audience Comments


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Addendums and various items of interest....

* On the unsung 5th Amendment, and why you should keep your damn mouth shut more often:


* Tom Baugh transcripts:
... NC Open Carry Rally: http://libertynewsradio.com/wire/article....
... More Like Dark Helmet (replies to critics): http://libertynewsradio.com/wire/article....

(More Baugh articles: http://libertynewsradio.com/columnist5.p.... )

* Victor Davis Hanson: A Nation of Peasants ... http://tickerforum.org/akcs-www?post=167....

* "Thanks a lot, Leon, you stupid loser drip." ... http://tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-w....

The left had this debate when Nixon ended the draft. Those who went on the Long March through the institutions and participated won.

ribbit.

"The left had this debate when Nixon ended the draft. Those who went on the Long March through the institutions and participated won."

The media already had a leftist tilt. Nixon and Agnew were the ones who first suggested the media was liberally biased. However, the "Long March" simply further consolidated their power within the media, entertainment, and academia.

They had not yet destroyed all the major cities in 1973. Cities such as New Haven, CT had a prosperous private sector, they were "diverse". Took a lot to break that city, it took the highest per capita redevelopment spending in the nation to bring it down. But they got in every nook and cranny of the society and government and did it.

Bezzle wrote..

do not own real-estate

Honest question, not intended to be argumentative: How does this help? Someone will own it and pay the taxes on it. It seems to me it might actually be more effective to own it, but always be as far behind in tax payments as possible without getting the rug pulled out?

-Uwe-

Wikipedia wrote..

To Spooner, the Republicans were hypocrites for purporting to oppose slavery's expansion but refusing to take a strong, consistent moral stance against slavery itself.

To me, the Republicans are hypocrites for purporting to oppose higher taxes but refusing to take a strong, consistent moral stance against taxation itself.

Lysander himself wrote..

I would much rather the government be in the hands of declared enemies of liberty, than in those of treacherous friends.

I still have a hard time with the idea that I should vote Democrat.

-Uwe-

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Someone will own it and pay the taxes on it. It seems to me it might actually be more effective to own it

Property-owners are primary targets with the majority (usually) of their wealth locked up in an extremely illiquid asset which government has a long history of seizing should its owner not ask "How high?" when it yells "Jump!"

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To me, the Republicans are...

The entire purpose of my post is an attempt to implore people to pry the dead skeletal hands of politics from around their throats.

Bezzle,

You're not going to get politics out of humanity any more than you're going to get white out of typing paper.

I'm not going to get fish **** out of the oceans either.

Should you drink them?

www.frogstew.com

Get your game on!

Too bad it's taken Bez.

Proposing lower taxes while refusing to take a strong moral stand against taxation itself is not hypocrisy. Not much which is called "hypocrisy" is hypocrisy. It is the most overused political charge there is and we have the ******* Karl Marx to thank for it (who himself just happened to be a true hypocrite).

Good summary Bez, I like your zoom out approach to the big picture and the coalesce to the dynamics that is happening in the shifting paradigm they are taking America.

Also, I agree with you ... be wary of property seizer in the now and especially the future ... eminent domain will flourish if and when Cap'n'Trade is passed: enter the new paradigm of Sustainable Development as one of the prongs of Agenda 21, it's already mapped out.

Bezzle,

True. But if want to keep fish in your fundamentally transformed sea you're going to need to deal with their ****.

Even though I Agree with most of what you wrote I think you need to do a bit more pondering.

For example how do you think Craigslist will still be around if TSHTF?

Re: Xennady

As long as the internet is still around in a moderately consistent form, there will always be some informal marketplace. I'm sure if the government gets really antsy it might try to do something like shut Craigslist down, but others will spring up to replace it. Like Napster.

Of course, if the internet gets shut down, it'll be clear that there's no difference between us and China or any other totalitarian state.

And what happened to napster?

Maybe my sentence wasn't clear. I should have said "Like all of the other Peer2Peer sites that exist now after Napster was shut down."

You're distracting yourself by assuming "TSHTF" implies an earth-shattering apocalypse in which electricity and computers become lost technologies. -- Distracting yourself like this is a subconscious excuse to delay hopping out of the bubbling broth.

I neither expect nor advise everyone to rush out and sell their house; they should at least, however, know what they're likely in for.

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Some people will "get this"; others won't. I'm very close to the point where I will soon cease caring about those who won't, because the pace of The Endarkenment is really picking up quick now, and I don't have time to deal with it. It's much easier to save a man who already has his arm out to catch yours, and is ready to jump.

Everything you need to know is in that one post, the associated links, and recommended literature.

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Edit: I'm out the rest of the day, so further questions will go unanswered until way late.

Bezzle,

Going underground like a Jew in Nazi Germany isn't hopping out of the broth.

Who should they have voted for in the 1936 German elections?

GET IT???

Stop wasting your and my time.

>sign off until 10pm-ish<

So you think not voting in 1928 and 1932 would have made it all better?

Bull****.

"The media already had a leftist tilt. Nixon and Agnew were the ones who first suggested the media was liberally biased. However, the "Long March" simply further consolidated their power within the media, entertainment, and academia."



ABSOLUTELY!!! Personally observed it to my frustration and forboding in the 60's as I projected the outcome we are now experiencing.

Great to see Lysander Spooner quoted. His writings were very influential to me. All his works are required reading in my opinion.

Bezzle: Message for you:

Photoguy wrote..

PLEASE PASS ALONG MY PRAISE TO BEZZLE FOR "FROG STEW" THAT WAS A TRULY AWESOME POST

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