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They are working on global taxes now....

You're wasting your time.

The thing that collects the taxes is already here.

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But it isn't just Art 1., Sec 8 now is it?

It's the beating heart, the spark that makes it all work.

I'm surprised at your lack of reaction to the Hillary Clinton to World Bank story today, Bezzle. I've seen you write horrible things (in relative terms) about the Clinton's and it kind of made me scratch my head when you just let that one go today.

If names don't matter, why rail on the Clinton's? Just askin'.

Farakan eats his words here. It's priceless.

Bezzle what have I said about spamming? We all KNOW about Article I, Section 8 and your feelings on it. DO NOT keep posting that on every thread and telling us all we're wasting our time. That's not for you to decide. If you don't like a thread topic, then don't read it. No one is ****ting on your PINNED thread. Go ahead and repeat Article I, Section 8 there to your heart's content.

This is your first and only warning.

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I'm surprised at your lack of reaction to the Hillary Clinton to World Bank story today, Bezzle.

She's just a name -- If it were not her, it would be someone else. ...This is nothing new.

You are on a the hamster wheel, and each rung in front of you has a new name to be excited about, and you run 'round 'n 'round 'n 'round, decade after decade after decade. "Bad" names to revile, "good" names to vote for, and on and on you run, while the dark heart beats louder and louder behind you as the thing keeps getting bigger and bigger because you won't turn around and face it head-on..

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We all KNOW about Article I, Section 8

"We"? That is the most demonstrably untrue thing you've ever written; and I realize you didn't really mean it.

Those "we" among you are going to be slaves for the rest of your lives because you refuse to even recognize the most dangerous and tyrannical thing in your entire existence: "The Crime of the Blackest Dye, as it strikes at happiness of millions" (-- Samuel Bryan, 1787).



Fine. I'll go away and post about tornadoes or something.

Bez, why ya talking in lame metaphors. If you have something to say, articulate it so that it can be absorbed by an 8th grader. You have nothing profound to say, you blather about with your 1040 burning, when in reality you work for the IRS?

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Swiss Politicians To March On Bilderberg Meeting, Demand Arrest Of Kissinger

UPDATE: Aaron Dykes interviews Swiss politician Lukas Reimann, at the scene of the Bilderberg meeting:

In the videos contained on this page, Infowars reporters Paul Joseaph Watson, Aaron Dykes and Luke Rudkowski interview activists and journalists covering the elite meeting in Switzerland.

They detail how activists from We Are Change Switzerland have a written letter from the Swiss parliament informing police that they must respect the rights of those documenting the meeting and not interfere with their work.

Swiss People’s Party representative Dominique Baettig, who wrote the letter, is going to march to the meeting along with two other leading politicians from the Swiss People’s Party and demand to be allowed inside to confront the elite attendees, including Henry Kissinger, who they wish to see arrested for war crimes.

One of the Swiss politicians, Lukas Reimann, appeared exclusively on the Alex Jones show today to details their plans. We will bring you more details as soon as we have them.

Here is a picture of the letter (in German) referred to in the videos below:



See videos here:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/bilderberg-2....

The Swiss seem to be quite concerned about their sovereignty.

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If you have something to say, articulate it so that it can be absorbed by an 8th grader.

No.

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You have nothing profound to say, you blather about with your 1040 burning, when in reality you work for the IRS?

Is the question-mark at the end of that sentence meant to indicate that you're unsure if it's a lie?

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Wake up: America was "taken over" by the Hamiltonian Aristocracy the moment the Constitution was ratified.

I'd agree with that. I started reading quite a bit into Andrew Jackson, Alex Hamilton, and The Bank a few years ago and I'd totally agree with that.

Me too. Hamilton was the suck. Good thing he's dead already.

I thought I'd explain my comment above about some of these folks we're talking about being Satanists and whatnot. I can imagine many folks saying, "What the **** is he talking about?" You just need to do some reading about it, but many of these folks are either into ancient pagan idolatry, worshiping Lucifer or other ancient pagan sects like the kabbalah, using books of spells and whatnot. Just read it, I'm not going to go on more about it here.

But here's some proof. Albert Pike is one of the most influential people in American history. There's a statue of him in DC and he wrote a book describing how Freemasonry should be practiced. He describes how the real god to be worshiped is Lucifer.

From Morals and Dogma:

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That which we must say to the crowd is - we worship a God, but it is the God that one adores without superstition. To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General (of the 33rd degree), we say this, that you may repeat it to the brethren of the 32nd , 31st and 30th degrees - The Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine.

If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay, the God of the Christians, whose deeds prove his cruelty, perfidy and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him? Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also God. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two Gods: darkness being necessary to light to serve as its foil as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive.

In analogical and universal dynamics one can only lean on that which will resist. Thus the universe is balanced by two forces which maintain its equilibrium, the force of attraction and that of repulsion These two forces exist in physics, philosophy and religion. And the scientific reality of the divine dualism is demonstrated by the phenomena of the polarity and by the universal law of sympathies and antipathies. That is why the intelligent disciples of Zoroaster, as well as, after them, the Gnostics, the Manicheans, and the Templars have admitted, as the only logical metaphysical conception, the system of the divine principles fighting eternally, and one cannot believe the one inferior in power to the other.

Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophic religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil.

Here is the whole book:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/9169387/Morals....

There is a whole lot more if you just keep digging.

Back to Bilderbergers for a moment.

David Rockefeller wrote..

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years......It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries."

David Rockefeller wrote..

"For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

You know, this stuff isn't hidden. They rather put it right out there. I mean, could they be more plain and specific? They really are counting on the 'cover' of blanketly discrediting conspiracy theorists. Arrogance.

Exactly right, Steph. This stuff has been out in the open for years. Strange we're only now beginning to see people put it together. Accidental? Hardly!

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Arrogance.

And that single word right there will be their undoing.

The quote about Rockefeller thanking the newspapers for their closed lips wasn't actually recorded or officially reported, from what I could find. It was supposedly written based on what someone said that he said, much like George Bush's, "Why do you keep talking about the Constitution? It's just a ******n piece of paper!" comment.

However, it is worthwhile to note that the group which David Rockefeller now is honorary chairperson, used to hold ABC News as a member last year:
http://www.cfr.org/about/corporate/roste....
http://www.cfr.org/experts/world/david-r....

Media corporations are often cycled in and out as corporate members.

That quote from Rockefeller, the second one, is from his own book. He wrote it.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/full-li....

Full Bilderberg attendee list 2011 from ZeroHedge

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Full participant list 2011:

Belgium

Coene, Luc, Governor, National Bank of Belgium
Davignon, Etienne, Minister of State
Leysen, Thomas, Chairman, Umicore

China

Fu, Ying, Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs
Huang, Yiping, Professor of Economics, China Center for Economic Research, Peking University

Denmark

Eldrup, Anders, CEO, DONG Energy
Federspiel, Ulrik, Vice President, Global Affairs, Haldor Topsře A/S
Schütze, Peter, Member of the Executive Management, Nordea Bank AB

Germany

Ackermann, Josef, Chairman of the Management Board and the Group Executive Committee, Deutsche Bank
Enders, Thomas, CEO, Airbus SAS
Löscher, Peter, President and CEO, Siemens AG
Nass, Matthias, Chief International Correspondent, Die Zeit
Steinbrück, Peer, Member of the Bundestag; Former Minister of Finance

Finland

Apunen, Matti, Director, Finnish Business and Policy Forum EVA
Johansson, Ole, Chairman, Confederation of the Finnish Industries EK
Ollila, Jorma, Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell
Pentikäinen, Mikael, Publisher and Senior Editor-in-Chief, Helsingin Sanomat

France

Baverez, Nicolas, Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP
Bazire, Nicolas, Managing Director, Groupe Arnault /LVMH
Castries, Henri de, Chairman and CEO, AXA
Lévy, Maurice, Chairman and CEO, Publicis Groupe S.A.
Montbrial, Thierry de, President, French Institute for International Relations
Roy, Olivier, Professor of Social and Political Theory, European University Institute

Great Britain

Agius, Marcus, Chairman, Barclays PLC
Flint, Douglas J., Group Chairman, HSBC Holdings
Kerr, John, Member, House of Lords; Deputy Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell
Lambert, Richard, Independent Non-Executive Director, Ernst & Young
Mandelson, Peter, Member, House of Lords; Chairman, Global Counsel
Micklethwait, John, Editor-in-Chief, The Economist
Osborne, George, Chancellor of the Exchequer
Stewart, Rory, Member of Parliament
Taylor, J. Martin, Chairman, Syngenta International AG

Greece

David, George A., Chairman, Coca-Cola H.B.C. S.A.
Hardouvelis, Gikas A., Chief Economist and Head of Research, Eurobank EFG
Papaconstantinou, George, Minister of Finance
Tsoukalis, Loukas, President, ELIAMEP Grisons

International Organizations

Almunia, Joaquín, Vice President, European Commission
Daele, Frans van, Chief of Staff to the President of the European Council
Kroes, Neelie, Vice President, European Commission; Commissioner for Digital Agenda
Lamy, Pascal, Director General, World Trade Organization
Rompuy, Herman van, President, European Council
Sheeran, Josette, Executive Director, United Nations World Food Programme
Solana Madariaga, Javier, President, ESADEgeo Center for Global Economy and Geopolitics
Trichet, Jean-Claude, President, European Central Bank
Zoellick, Robert B., President, The World Bank Group

Ireland

Gallagher, Paul, Senior Counsel; Former Attorney General
McDowell, Michael, Senior Counsel, Law Library; Former Deputy Prime Minister
Sutherland, Peter D., Chairman, Goldman Sachs International

Italy

Bernabč, Franco, CEO, Telecom Italia SpA
Elkann, John, Chairman, Fiat S.p.A.
Monti, Mario, President, Univers Commerciale Luigi Bocconi
Scaroni, Paolo, CEO, Eni S.p.A.
Tremonti, Giulio, Minister of Economy and Finance

Canada

Carney, Mark J., Governor, Bank of Canada
Clark, Edmund, President and CEO, TD Bank Financial Group
McKenna, Frank, Deputy Chair, TD Bank Financial Group
Orbinksi, James, Professor of Medicine and Political Science, University of Toronto
Prichard, J. Robert S., Chair, Torys LLP
Reisman, Heather, Chair and CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc. Center, Brookings Institution

Netherlands

Bolland, Marc J., Chief Executive, Marks and Spencer Group plc
Chavannes, Marc E., Political Columnist, NRC Handelsblad; Professor of Journalism
Halberstadt, Victor, Professor of Economics, Leiden University; Former Honorary Secretary General of Bilderberg Meetings
H.M. the Queen of the Netherlands
Rosenthal, Uri, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Winter, Jaap W., Partner, De Brauw Blackstone Westbroek

Norway

Myklebust, Egil, Former Chairman of the Board of Directors SAS, sk Hydro ASA
H.R.H. Crown Prince Haakon of Norway
Ottersen, Ole Petter, Rector, University of Oslo
Solberg, Erna, Leader of the Conservative Party

Austria

Bronner, Oscar, CEO and Publisher, Standard Medien AG
Faymann, Werner, Federal Chancellor
Rothensteiner, Walter, Chairman of the Board, Raiffeisen Zentralbank Österreich AG
Scholten, Rudolf, Member of the Board of Executive Directors, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG

Portugal

Balsemăo, Francisco Pinto, Chairman and CEO, IMPRESA, S.G.P.S.; Former Prime Minister
Ferreira Alves, Clara, CEO, Claref LDA; writer
Nogueira Leite, António, Member of the Board, José de Mello Investimentos, SGPS, SA

Sweden

Mordashov, Alexey A., CEO, Severstal
Bildt, Carl, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Björling, Ewa, Minister for Trade
Wallenberg, Jacob, Chairman, Investor AB

Switzerland

Brabeck-Letmathe, Peter, Chairman, Nestlé S.A.
Groth, Hans, Senior Director, Healthcare Policy & Market Access, Oncology Business Unit, Pfizer Europe
Janom Steiner, Barbara, Head of the Department of Justice, Security and Health, Canton
Kudelski, André, Chairman and CEO, Kudelski Group SA
Leuthard, Doris, Federal Councillor
Schmid, Martin, President, Government of the Canton Grisons
Schweiger, Rolf, Ständerat
Soiron, Rolf, Chairman of the Board, Holcim Ltd., Lonza Ltd.
Vasella, Daniel L., Chairman, Novartis AG
Witmer, Jürg, Chairman, Givaudan SA and Clariant AG

Spain

Cebrián, Juan Luis, CEO, PRISA
Cospedal, María Dolores de, Secretary General, Partido Popular
León Gross, Bernardino, Secretary General of the Spanish Presidency
Nin Génova, Juan María, President and CEO, La Caixa
H.M. Queen Sofia of Spain

Turkey

Ciliv, Süreyya, CEO, Turkcell Iletisim Hizmetleri A.S.
Gülek Domac, Tayyibe, Former Minister of State
Koç, Mustafa V., Chairman, Koç Holding A.S.
Pekin, Sefika, Founding Partner, Pekin & Bayar Law Firm

USA

Alexander, Keith B., Commander, USCYBERCOM; Director, National Security Agency
Altman, Roger C., Chairman, Evercore Partners Inc.
Bezos, Jeff, Founder and CEO, Amazon.com
Collins, Timothy C., CEO, Ripplewood Holdings, LLC
Feldstein, Martin S., George F. Baker Professor of Economics, Harvard University
Hoffman, Reid, Co-founder and Executive Chairman, LinkedIn
Hughes, Chris R., Co-founder, Facebook
Jacobs, Kenneth M., Chairman & CEO, Lazard
Johnson, James A., Vice Chairman, Perseus, LLC
Jordan, Jr., Vernon E., Senior Managing Director, Lazard Frčres & Co. LLC
Keane, John M., Senior Partner, SCP Partners; General, US Army, Retired
Kissinger, Henry A., Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.
Kleinfeld, Klaus, Chairman and CEO, Alcoa
Kravis, Henry R., Co-Chairman and co-CEO, Kohlberg Kravis, Roberts & Co.
Kravis, Marie-Josée, Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute, Inc.
Li, Cheng, Senior Fellow and Director of Research, John L. Thornton China Center, Brookings Institution
Mundie, Craig J., Chief Research and Strategy Officer, Microsoft Corporation
Orszag, Peter R., Vice Chairman, Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.
Perle, Richard N., Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
Rockefeller, David, Former Chairman, Chase Manhattan Bank
Rose, Charlie, Executive Editor and Anchor, Charlie Rose
Rubin, Robert E., Co-Chairman, Council on Foreign Relations; Former Secretary of the Treasury
Schmidt, Eric, Executive Chairman, Google Inc.
Steinberg, James B., Deputy Secretary of State
Thiel, Peter A., President, Clarium Capital Management, LLC
Varney, Christine A., Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust
Vaupel, James W., Founding Director, Max Planck Institute for Demographic Research
Warsh, Kevin, Former Governor, Federal Reserve Board
Wolfensohn, James D., Chairman, Wolfensohn & Company, LLC

There is a Saturday edition of the Alex Jones show tomorrow, I think it's hosted by Paul Joseph Watson, and they are covering the Bidlerberg protest and the Swiss politician's actions. 8pm www.infowars.com/listen.pls

Paul Joseph Watson is actually excellent. He doesn't fall into the traps that Alex creates for himself where he exaggerates all the time, which makes people think he's full of it when they check him out. Paul Watson is quite a good moderator. He also doesn't interrupt his guests and rant all the time.

Back to Bilderberg.

http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2011/06/bild....

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Heads of state, CEOs and NATO officials are gathering at the top secret Bilderberg conference this week in St. Moritz, Switzerland. Are the global elite meeting to carve up the world or is this just simply a talk shop? With these meetings perhaps shaping the future of the globe, why is the media not being allowed to listen in?

Andrew Gavin Marshall of the Centre for Research on Globalization says that despite democratically-elected leaders from democratic countries conversing, these closed-door conversations are far from democratic.

The lack of transparency regarding attendees and what goes on behind closed doors leaves many to speculate about what the group's mission is.

The meeting in Switzerland itself has been hidden behind a wall of secrecy. Many discovered the meeting is set for Switzerland, but not the exact location. AFP reported that officials in the Swiss canton of Graubunden said the meeting would be held in a mountain resort at St. Moritz, but gave no further details.

Marshall argues that the group is undemocratic, and anyone in attendance or in support of the group does not support democracy.

"It brings together elites from North America and elite to establish a consensus," he said. "The aim is to set a consensus and to coordinate the policies for NATO countries."

Marshall claims the Bilderberg set the date for the Iraq war and other major events in advance, everything was planned out. He argues that the system is in place to pick world leaders, leaders of major international organizations and set policies globally and domestically inside nations.

Laws are being broken, he argues, saying domestic laws that prohibit US leaders from negotiating in this way are violating laws. But, nothing is done to address this.

Jota: i havent seen the End Game video (will check it out), but if he does suggest a direct link between the Black Hand and British intelligence it will be interesting to investigate.

The Black Hand was responsible for bringing a pro-Western king back to the serbian throne, so there could well be a British link in funding and training the group for that purpose initially.

The Karadjordjevic royal family resides in London and has ties to the other royals.

More interesting than the bankers, i'd like to see how the European royal families fit into all of this. They are truly 'old money' in Europe; if anyone wields true power the royals must all be involved in it. Hell the British royal family still enjoy taxes being collected from other Commonwealth nations as far as i'm aware so they have the tax scam down pat...

Can you take the arguing somewhere else?

It's pointless to argue on the internet.

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if he does suggest a direct link between the Black Hand and British intelligence it will be interesting to investigate.

My point is that I've seen these many times and I'm doing your (Belzzle's) homework for you (Bez). The **** Alex claims there doesn't exist, unless you can find it.

OK, so we have this list of a few dozen people at Bilderberger. And they're in charge. That's the hypothesis.

There are..... what - several billion people on the planet. Many of them are possessed of means to kill these individuals. If, in fact, such an evil is taking place, you wish me to believe that out of all these billions there is not one person willing to sacrifice themselves to kill one of these individuals?

See, while security is tight I'm sure, no security is impenetrable. And a "lone nut" who wishes to kill someone will, most of the time, succeed. He'll die doing it, but he'll succeed.

My bull**** alarm is going off.

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There are..... what - several billion people

Bold statement. No, there aren't that many, to answers your question.

We have been emasculated.