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User Info Norway: Attack on Labour Party youth summer camp in forum [NotSoBreakingGeo]
Bighiller
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Is this an isolated loony or is this guy a member of some kind of active "movement" or is this a false-flag?

Good luck explaining all this away as simply a "nutjob". Clearly this guy did some thinking and planning.

**** is weeeeeird.

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Rbarreira
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Kamath, by opposite cases I mean of course that the killing sprees were NOT stopped by gun-wielding citizens.

I remember very well for example the killing of Pantera's guitarist at a concert, the attacker was killing people until a policeman arrived. More recently some guy killed people at a military building (he ended up committing suicide if I remember correctly). Several cases of shooting sprees at schools or university campuses, I don't remember any which got stopped by non-police citizens with guns. All of those were in the U.S. which has less strict gun laws.

Again, I'm sure it does happen since some people do carry guns around, but it does not seem to be the rule. So I question the statement that the success of this attack has much to do with gun laws.

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In Soviet Russia, the government regulates the banks.

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Guy wrote a damn novel. 1,516 pages in MS Word. Looks very comprehensive. Knights Templar eh?
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To the people from Scandanavia that read this board, please accept my condolences. I lived in Oslo for a while and had a lot of good friends there. I am sorry for your losses.

Peace be with you!

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BreakingNews: Norway TV2 (translated): Shooting suspect released video, manifesto on the web - via @stian_pride http://translate.google.com/translate?hl....

The MSM knows. If you want it, save it before it's gone.
Icanhasbailout
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I got a copy of it and the video if anyone wants I can put it on my server

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Arpwatch
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Glad you got the video Icanhas, youtube just yanked it. I have a copy of the manifesto as well.
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BreakingNews: Lawyer: Norway shooting suspect believed his actions were 'atrocious' but 'necessary'; He's willing to explain himself in court - Reuters
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He's declared war on multiculturalism/marxism/islam and made a war guide for followers.

He's prepared for a show-trial...

This thing is fubar.

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Insanity has no rational explanation.

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What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
Cevinkey
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I'm wondering when all the anti-Islamist nutjob racists on this board will apologize for jumping the gun?
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Didn't Islamists on a forum claim responsibility AND praise the attack??? How does that leave the Islamists with immunity in your eyes?


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Rbarreira
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Drench, there's at least one copy of the video still alive on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7avMHN16Y....

I believe Veoh only shows the first 5 minutes of it.

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In Soviet Russia, the government regulates the banks.
Mayorquimby
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Not for nothing but that entire video seems like it was produced by a TFer.

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Mo
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Does he say how shooting children in the park furthers his cause?

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Mayorquimby
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No. He bitches about Muslim invasions, consumerism, cultural Marxism and the general indoctrination of the populace into the secularists' worldview to the extent that Europeans and Euro culture is being torn asunder.

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Quote:
arrived 95 minutes after the shooting started


Arrive late, write the report, go home and cash your check just the same.




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Seems like a far right Ted Kaczynski. IMHO.

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That man is not a Christian. No Christian would support his actions and all would condemn them. (unlike muslims and there cold blooded killers) In his own video he claims to be a "cultural Christian" not a "religious Christian" at 10:53.

Almost everything in his video is right on. Unfortunately, his conclusion of how to fight the war and win is completely wrong. Killing people in cold blood is never the answer.
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Handsome devil detected

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Insanity has no rational explanation.
He is very definitely not insane -- He is the complete antithesis of a screw**** like Ted Kazinsky.

Go straight to the third-last page and look at the glossary.

-- You will not find a more thoroughly solid primer of action derived as a purely logical consequence of unflinching analysis of factual data than what is in that "manifesto" (an unfortunately choice of terms because it invites comparisons to the ravings of screw****s).

It is the diary of a methodical warrior; and in the fullness of time will be regarded as every bit as influential as Marx' The Communist Manifesto.

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That man is not a Christian. No Christian would support his actions and all would condemn them. (unlike muslims and there cold blooded killers) In his own video he claims to be a "cultural Christian" not a "religious Christian" at 10:53.


Classical "No true Scotsman" fallacy...

He's own definition from the manifesto is moderately religious. In the video at 10.53 there is some text about ITC&cultural christian, but I can't see anything about his own religious beliefs.
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In the novel, he says something to the effect that he does believe in God and chose Christianity as basically a banner that Europeans can unite under.

Read that novel... I have never read anything like it. This guy is not your average cookie.

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Mpilar
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I don't believe he's insane either...this was planned so well and so far in advance, I wouldn't be surprised if the book describes him getting arrested for this as well and a plan of how to handle the trial. He'll only be in his 40's, worst case, when he gets out of prison...

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