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He's a psychopath. No one who cares about other people can shoot dead 85 defenseless kids, regardless of the soundness of the philosophy.

Intelligence level or twistedness is not psychopathy, it's the lack of empathy for other people that characterizes the condition.


Not picking on Boz in particular - but this statement pretty much defines the mindset of the typical American - who BTW is currently vigorously supporting their troops overseas in their efforts to kill children based on their incorrect philosophy / religion / location (oh, I'm sorry - they're called 'collateral' damage now) in what is it, SIX ****ing ongoing wars right now ? (Not counting places like Pakistan of course, where every week we hear of another drone attack on a house full of 'turrorists' (where I'm sure before they drop the JDAMs or Hellfires, they give them a phone call so they can remove their kids before we obliterate their ass).

The whole insane psychopath sociopath label thing keeps bringing me back to the pot - kettle - black thing.

If YOUR GOVERNMENT kills children based on a 'misguided' philosophy, well it's ok - they 'deserved' it. But if an individual does the same thing without the sanction of the group think, well, that's just insanity man, insanity.

****ing retarded illogical irrational EVIL thinking.

85 ? - well that's just horrific - 85,000 ? well that's just the breaks, man. There's your typical American empathy working for you ( and not picking on Americans in particular - it's a totally typcially modern HUMAN lack of empathy when the numbers get too big for them to count on their fingers and toes).

You GET shooters/bombers like this BECAUSE your society is a totally ****ed up mess and people who are out there on the edge reach the end of their rope and snap.

Why not do something completely insane like kill a bunch of kids because of their political beliefs ?

YOUR ****ing GOVERNMENT DOES IT EVERY ****ING DAY - and every 'rational' patriotic citizen applauds their efforts - so therefore it MUST be ok.

The whole thing - and by whole thing I mean the collapse of western civ - is BIBLICAL - and I'm not even a religious kind of guy.

How many times do you have to read :
You reap what you sow
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This guy was a pro Israel, anti Muslim whacko.

http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/07/the-nor....

It adds a new dimension to the word "Neocon" as in Neoconvict as he will do 100 life sentences in prison.
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85 ? - well that's just horrific - 85,000 ? well that's just the breaks, man. There's your typical American empathy working for you ( and not picking on Americans in particular - it's a totally typcially modern HUMAN lack of empathy when the numbers get too big for them to count on their fingers and toes).


It comes direct from Stalin: "One death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic."

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Oh yeah, he's very pro-israel, in fact calls himself a zionist I believe. It says some of his friends suspected him of being a homosexual. I think it may eventually come to war...Europeans will have only a few choices with the massive demographic change. 1. Leave Europe and/or live in enclaves 2. Assimilate 3. Go to war. 4. Tax the crap out muslims and use the money to subsidize native European birth. However, this guy is about 2-3 decades too early. Even then his actions are still heinous even by war's standards. Who knows, those kids may have seen the light in a couple decades when the whites of their eyes see the Islamification and been instrumental.

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It adds a new dimension to the word "Neocon" as in Neoconvict as he will do 100 life sentences in prison.

He will get a MAX of 21 years.

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YOUR ****ing GOVERNMENT DOES IT EVERY ****ING DAY - and every 'rational' patriotic citizen applauds their efforts - so therefore it MUST be ok.


His government is killing kids every day? What?

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BreakingNews: Doc says Norway suspect used dum-dum bullets, known for causing maximun internal damage - AP
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It says in his manifesto that he put pure nicotine drops in hollow points to ensure a high kill rate.

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what was he shooting with? a rifle? a handgun? what kind?
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Boz wrote..
He's a psychopath. No one who cares about other people can shoot dead 85 defenseless kids, regardless of the soundness of the philosophy.

Thank you for the voice of reason.

Defenseless kids do get killed in wars, but sane people do not murder them intentionally; those who do are considered war criminals.

-Uwe-

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He will get a MAX of 21 years.

If he had killed one of my kids, he'd better hope I die before he gets out, because if I'm still alive when he does, he wouldn't be for long.

No, my kids wouldn't have been at some left-wing political indoctrination camp, but that's beside the point.

-Uwe-

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What about when they drop an atomic bomb on an entire city?

Not trying to argue Uwe...just pointing out, only in very recent times did civilian attacks somehow become taboo...and then, it's only considered by those countries with the power of complete annihilation, but 'encouraged' to those without that power...

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what was he shooting with? a rifle? a handgun? what kind?


Ruger Mini-14 and Glock 34.

Althought his original plan was to buy AK47 instead of that Ruger, but he failed to find one from black markets or something.

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Ya know, when I found out most of the victims were 15 or 16, I replaced "kids" with "youth" in the subject.
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What about when they drop an atomic bomb on an entire city?

Bombing a city in the midst of a declared war is not the same as gunning down defenseless kids one at a time. I'm not sure whether the former is morally justifiable, but I'm certain the latter is not.

-Uwe-

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Attacks against civilians are only considered taboo by Westerners... they are common elsewhere.

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Uwe and Boz are proving the fallacy of their own argument......

Your last post plainly sanctions killing by state actors...

Yet you proclaim that If you are not a state actor, and you commit political violence, you are psychopath....

That logic mirrors Psychopathology of a slave.....

That logic is based in pure emotion and has no basis in reality....

Using that logic the USA would not exist......

Just admit it, you are a slave, I know you have both enjoyed success in the business world. Reality is you are still slaves, just as anyone else here...

Stockholm syndrome is strong with your two.......

Continue now below my post with your defense of your overlords and the status quo, please ignore all reality if it doesn't FEEL good......

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Spazz, are you referring to my last post? Since Boz hasn't posted in almost 6 hours, I will assume you are.
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Your last post plainly sanctions killing by state actors.

I sanctioned nothing. I said I am not sure whether bombing a city is morally justifiable. That is far from sanctioning it.
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If you are not a state actor you are a psychopath.

If I believed that, then I would have to consider myself a psychopath. Read my second-to-last post.
http://tickerforum.org/akcs-www?singlepo....

-Uwe-

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But Uwe....dont you understand...that is what he wanted.....to spark a war....wars more often than not start due to a loss of an asset or REVENGE.

This man was not insane, rather very smart in his planning, targeting and execution for maximum effect. These were not youth of sheeple.

These men (fathers of great political influence) will seek revenge just as you have expressed...And when they do it will be but another victory notch for him to put in his hat.


ETA.....these fathers will also now be acting in a state of emotion...not logic...it is then that one is most vulnerable. He has indeed created Chaos amongst his defined enemy. He has shaken their sense of invulnerability and sense of safety.

I remember a few of our forefathers who spoke on these very issues........

Tree of liberty being refreshed by blood of tyrants and patriots.......

The .gov should fear the people, the people should not fear its .gov......

History is a bitch........funny how it repeats, yet many want to forget the past lessons of history, simply because it is inconvenient or may interfere with their lives as a slave if one was to apply the lessons we should have learned from history. Look around and act upon the reality of the world around us. Not the Matrix you have built as a defense mechanism in your head to deal with this world of illusion.

What are you all gonna tell your grand and great grand children in 20 years.....

Ahh.....we couldnt bear to see anyone get hurt, It did't feel Good, for some reason they just wouldnt listen to us, all well what was I supposed to do anyways.......



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Ican,

are you kidding me? Even in an uncivilized place like China, anyone who is targeting a defenseless kid for whatever noble cause is condemned by the whole society.

I am really shocked by the decay of moral value in some people who will do anything for their so-called noble cause. Even if they are slaves as you proclaim, they are LIVING slaves. A living slave is 1000 times better than a dead master.

If you hate Muslims, go to an Arab country to kill, and I don't give a ****. I will even say you put your guns where your mouth is. Killing in a civilized society to pick on defenseless kids is an act of coward.
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Just a meaningless point, but 15-16 year old's are only "kids" in the United States...

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Rice Ball

Sorry, your logic fails horribly....

Point....

1 dead Hitler is worth how many dead innocent children to accomplish that goal...

You tell me.......

And if you say 0 you are a disillusioned LIAR.

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that is what he wanted.....to spark a war [...] This man was not insane, rather very smart in his planning, targeting and execution for maximum effect.

One could say the same thing about OBL and the 9/11 attacks. Despite the fact that OBL seems to have gotten exactly what he wanted, few would argue that he and his actors were not psychopathic.

The term "Psychopath" is generally used to describe those who lack a normal amount of empathy towards their fellow humans. This allows them to initiate acts of violence that normal people would never seriously contemplate. It seems to me that Mr. Breivik fits this definition.

-Uwe-

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Wait, are you saying the kids who were the victims were sons and daughters of the rich elite who are running Norway (or Europe, or The World)?

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Hitler was rising out of Norway? May I know which of these killed children, or which particular politician in Norway would become Hitler? Or are you referring to Obama as the potential Hitler? So killing a bunch of youth or whatever you want to call them on an island is going to stop the rise of the next Hitler (and we don't even know who this next Hitler would be) sounds like a twisted logic to me.

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