I thought that Debka had been thoroughly discredited as an accurate news source? Are we really still relying on them for sole coverage of this issue?

Yes, Spanktron, it has been discredited, and I marvel at people's reliance on it as well.

I'm totally aware that DEBKA is an Israeli disinfo source, and yes it reads a bit on the tin side. Just putting it out there, because even disinfo will most often contain a bit of truth.

fair enough Landshark. As long as you are aware that it is less than gospel truth, I can see the value in reading it with a wary eye.

I don't see why Debka has such a bad reputation, it's certainly as credible as any other msm crap (which isn't saying much) which is exactly my point.
Debka gets **** while msm always gets a pass.

Who the **** isn't slanting **** anymore to make whatever their case happens to be?

Karl.
That is it.

Everywhere else you gotta sift through **** then dig out the nuggets of truth and try and salvage the kernel of facts buried somewhere hidden within. (redundant run-on sentence...OT kicking my ass and too tired to care).

Bitchfest off.

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But the White House hasn’t yet decided precisely how the United States would respond if the Israelis do attack.

[bull****]

I smell bull****

War's coming guys. And its gonna make Iraq look like an exercise.

The video I posted above is propaganda, designed to drive us to it.

Wow, that is some powerful propaganda. Gave me chills. Reminds me of old Cold War videos from the 50's.

The part I found the most unbelievable though was Iranian Air Force controlling the airspace in Israel like they appeared to be doing.

Still, chilling.

Iranian? I thought that was Obama's Air Force.

That wasn't necessarily the Iranian airforce. Looked like F-15s from Saudi Arabia to me...

Just one sentence:

"Here it comes"

CSM: Is Iran Trying to Develop a Missile That Could Reach America?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46250139

Iran has terrorists here waiting to strike when war starts.

A bit of propaganda and Islamic prophecy from Iran:

http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/iran-warns-wo....




GLOBAL INSECURITY


Iran warns world of coming great event


Says 'evil hegemony' soon will be defeated by power of Allah
Published: 21 hours ago



By Reza Kahlili

Amid crippling sanctions over its nuclear weapons program, Iran is continuing to prepare itself for war against the West, and now is warning of a coming great event.

“In light of the realization of the divine promise by almighty God, the Zionists and the Great Satan (America) will soon be defeated,” Ayatollah Khamenei, the Iranian supreme leader, is warning.

Khamenei, speaking to hundreds of youths from more than 70 countries attending a world conference on the Arab Spring just days ago, told a cheering crowd in Tehran that “Allah’s promises will be delivered and Islam will be victorious.”

The countries represented included Bahrain, Egypt, Libya, Palestine and Tunisia, all of which have been involved in the Arab Spring.

In his remarks, Khamenei advised the youths to remain vigilant, stating that the Islamic awakening in the region has delivered several blows to the enemies of Islam and that all Muslims, despite their own historical and social differences, remain united in opposing the “evil hegemony of the Zionists and the Americans.”

Khamenei then claimed the current century as the century of Islam and promised that human history is on the verge of a great event and that soon the world will realize the power of Allah.

Many clerics in Iran have stated that Khamenei is the deputy of the last Islamic messiah on earth and that obedience to him is necessary for the final glorification of Islam.

Khamenei has been heard to say that the coming of the last Islamic Messiah, the Shiites’ 12th Imam Mahdi, is near and that specific actions need to be taken to protect the Islamic regime for upcoming events.

Mahdi, according to Shiite belief, will reappear at the time of Armageddon. Selected forces within the Revolutionary Guards and Basij reportedly have been trained under a task force called “Soldiers of Imam Mahdi” and they will bear the responsibility of security and protecting the regime against uprisings. Many in the Guards and Basij have been told that the 12th Imam is on earth, facilitated the victory of Hezbollah over Israel in the 2006 war and soon will announce publicly his presence after the needed environment is created.

Sources within Vali’eh Amr, the revolutionary forces in charge of the supreme leader’s protection, also recently revealed an assassination attempt on Khamenei that was thwarted just in time.

SepahOnline reports that last year during Khamenei’s visit to the port of Asalouyeh in southern Iran, Revolutionary Guards found pistols and hand grenades hidden by one individual dressed as a janitor in a barracks that Khamenei was set to attend. The supreme leader was then returned to Tehran immediately.

Other sources within the Guards report that following Barack Obama’s letter to the Iranian leader last month requesting negotiations, Khamenei ordered Iranian officials to speak positively about holding nuclear talks and giving hope to Obama and other Western leaders that a negotiated solution is possible.

This was apparent after a trip of U.N. nuclear inspectors to Iran this week, who called the talks positive.

At the same time, his directive to the Guards ordered a speedy completion of the Iranian nuclear bomb program in which Guards’ missiles can be armed with nuclear warheads. Khamenei believes once that’s achieved, Iran can test a nuclear bomb, letting the world know that Iran has joined the nuclear-armed club and that any confrontation will result in destruction of much of the Western world.

The Revolutionary Guards not only can hit all U.S. bases in the Middle East with their ballistic missiles but also reach most capital cities in Western Europe. The Guards, with the help of China and North Korea, are working on intercontinental ballistic missiles. But more dangerous to America, as reported last July, is the Guards action in arming their vessels with long-range ballistic missiles and their expansion of their mission into the Atlantic Ocean, right into the Gulf of Mexico.

Any Iranian military or commercial vessel easily could get right outside the U.S. coastline and in less than 60 seconds fire a ballistic missile armed with a nuclear payload and detonate it over U.S. skies in an electromagnetic attack that would plunge America back into the 18th century.

Studies show within just one year after such an attack, two-thirds of Americans would cease to exist and the rest would live under dire conditions.

The radicals ruling Iran not only have prepared for mass suppression of their own people as they get close to their confrontation with the West, but also have prepared to fuel unrest through their proxies in the Middle East and elsewhere.

SepahOnline, with sources within the Guards, reports that Afghanistan will soon witness an increase in terrorist activities against U.S. forces. The Guards not only are training Taliban fighters in Iran close to the Afghan border, but are shipping armaments to forces in Afghanistan with an order to create instability by harming U.S. forces and destabilizing the Afghan government.

Guards agents have also been ordered to do the same in Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf counties.

The Guards also announced the imminent formation of a defensive unit to deal with possible radioactive contamination. Although they did not say why, they could be preparing for a nuclear exchange with the West once Iran becomes nuclear-armed.

WND previously has reported that the chieftains in Iran also are preparing to execute their own internal critics and opponents at the right time.

This was similar to action taken by the founder of the Islamic regime in 1988, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.

In the book, “A Time to Betray,”the CIA spy in the revolutionary guards reveals the mindset of the Shi’ite clerics and how they aspire for the destruction of the world. They truly believe the end of time is here. As revealed last year, the Iranian secret documentary “The Coming is Upon Us” clearly indicates that the radicals ruling Iran believe the destruction of Israel will trigger the coming of last Islamic Messiah.

What an interesting video Landshark. It's very well-made a chilling but so unlikely at the same time. It portrays Israel as a helpless country that could be overrun at any second by their neighbors and get nuked.

Tk, yep... The quality is what makes me think it might be psyop propaganda.

How is Russia this a.m...?

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/....

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Revolutionary Guard starts military exercise in Iran's south

Plans for new Iranian naval games in the Persian Gulf have been in the works for weeks. State media said that ground forces began maneuvers in southern Iran, but it was not immediately clear whether it was part of the planned naval training missions scheduled for this month or a separate operation.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/....

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Iran: Oil ban will not halt nuclear program

Iran's oil minister said his country would not retreat from its nuclear program even if its crude oil exports grind to a halt, the official IRNA news agency reported on Saturday.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/04/krauth....

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Krauthammer: Leak indicates Israeli attack on Iran ‘certain’

“I think it’s fairly certain the Israelis are going to attack or you would not have had this leak, deliberately coming this week from secretary of Defense through David Ignatius of The [Washington] Post saying that he thinks there is a high likelihood Israel is going to attack, and then he went ahead and specified when. He said three months, April, May or June. And you don’t say that unless there is obviously indications from the Israelis that they are going to do this even if they get and they are getting a signal from the United States not to do it.”

http://nosint.blogspot.com/2012/02/franc....

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France to send nuclear aircraft carrier to Persian Gulf

It is expected that in March-April at least four U.S. and French aircraft carrier battle groups will be placed in East of Persian Gulf, according to Interfax.

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120204/....

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Iran Starts Cruise Missile Production

http://www.energy-daily.com/reports/Gulf....

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Gulf states struggle to beat oil threat

The Persian Gulf emirate of Abu Dhabi is rushing to complete a $3.29 billion underwater oil pipeline from the United Arab Emirates to an export terminal on the Gulf of Oman to bypass the endangered choke point Strait of Hormuz.

The much-delayed pipeline is expected to open in May but that may not be in time to alleviate any closure of Hormuz.

You add to that the Iranian and Russian elections on March 2-4 and you got yourself a lot of trouble brewing.

It's like 2003 all over again.

Landshark-

Yup. Just waiting for Sec State Clinton to make a speech before the U.N.