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Drench Posts: 28631 Incept: 2009-11-10	Quote: Officials said Saturday they believe the latest earthquake activity in northeast Ohio is related to the injection of wastewater into the ground near a fault line, creating enough pressure to cause seismic activity. The brine wastewater comes from drilling operations that use the so-called fracking process to extract gas from underground shale. But Ohio Department of Natural Resources Director Jim Zehringer said during a news teleconference that fracking is not causing the quakes. "The seismic events are not a direct result of fracking," he said. Environmentalists and property owners who live near gas drilling wells have questioned the safety of fracking to the environment and public health. Federal regulators have declared the technology safe, however. Zehringer said four injection wells within a five-mile radius of an already shuttered well in Youngstown will remain inactive while further scientific research is conducted. http://www.wfaa.com/news/national/Fracki.... 2012-01-01 11:32:31 Permalink
Grace Posts: 519 Incept: 2008-10-15 upstate new york	State Rep. Bob Hagan took the earthquake as an indication that natural gas drilling processes need to be placed on hold across the state until further study can be completed. He said he worked with State Rep. Sean O'Brien to petition Gov. John Kasich's office to issue the moratorium on drilling. "If they're going to make millions and millions of dollars, they're going to do it right, as far as I'm concerned," Hagan said. http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.de.... follow the money... 2012-01-01 12:23:54 Permalink
Uwe Posts: 6455 Incept: 2009-01-03 19446	What a joke. There are tens of thousands of 3.5-4.5 quakes per year world-wide; probably on the order of 100 per day. They aren't newsworthy, and just because one happened to occur where some drilling and waste water injection was being done does not mean said activity caused it. -Uwe- ---------- “Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” - John Locke 2012-01-01 13:16:52 Permalink
Darth Posts: 2182 Incept: 2009-07-07 SWVA - US	I just can't bring myself to believe that natural gas exploration, drilling for oil, ect....ect could cause a damn Earthquake. The amounts of energy needed to cause an Earthquake are just HUGE compared to anything we could do. I doubt we could cause such an Earthquake with an Atomic Bomb. Am I supposed to believe that injecting water is worse than an a nuclear weapon exploding under ground? 2012-01-01 13:32:01 Permalink
Jeffrey_thomason Posts: 7083 Incept: 2009-03-11	I suppose I could buy the pressure causing the fault to slip earlier then it was going to anyway.. but direct cause? No way. ---------- When they turn the pages of history, when these days have passed long ago. Will they read of us with sadness for the seeds that we let grow? 2012-01-01 13:59:21 Permalink
Uwe Posts: 6455 Incept: 2009-01-03 19446	If this kind of activity causes a fault to slip sooner than it otherwise would, that's probably A Good Thing. -Uwe- ---------- “Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” - John Locke 2012-01-01 14:06:02 From PDA Permalink
Krzelune Posts: 5513 Incept: 2007-10-08	I'm with Uwe on this one. They need to start injecting all that used KY Jelly from the porn industry into the San Andreas fault so California can bypass the big one. ---------- The desire of millions, the inconvenience of millions, the suffering of millions, the death of millions, does not concern them because of the evolutionary humanist lens they peer through. 2012-01-01 14:10:51 Permalink
Goforbroke Posts: 5346 Incept: 2007-11-30 Just call me 'Comrade'	http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/.... Quote: Gov. John Kasich is working to attract another big corporate name to Ohio, and this time he’s getting a little help from both his friends and his sometimes foes. Kasich is pursuing Shell Chemicals’ multibillion-dollar ethane cracker facility, which Shell plans to build in Ohio, West Virginia or Pennsylvania to capitalize on the growing harvest of natural gas from Marcellus shale. The American Chemistry Council estimates that Shell’s new plant would generate 17,000 jobs in chemistry and other industries, as well as $1 billion in wages and $169 million in tax revenue for Ohio. ---------- We have met the enemy and it is us. -- Pogo Last modified: 2012-01-01 18:30:56 by goforbroke 2012-01-01 18:29:45 Permalink
Tallystick Posts: 2230 Incept: 2009-09-20	Doubtful there is a correlation, but if there is, erosion rather than pressure seems more plausible as a trigger. 2012-01-01 23:05:49 Permalink
Bezzle Posts: 15043 Incept: 2009-08-02 Banned	Not this stupid **** again: Nothingburger "quake" plus tin rider. ---------- El Sock-Puppeto exposed and killed by Tickerguy 2012-01-02 04:27:36 Permalink
Grody Posts: 3731 Incept: 2008-02-19	Quote: Also, 2011 was the first time the U.S. exported more oil than it imported since 1949. Fracking for "shale gas" is revolutionizing energy production and leading to energy independence for America and other countries. Some people do not want to see this happen. That may explain at least part of the environmental and earthquake hysteria over fracking. Quote: Countries that have never had so much available energy will become self-sufficient, and perhaps even exporters," Luis Alberto Terrero, head of the Venezuelan Gas Processors Association (AVPG), told IPS. As gas supplies grow, "fossil fuels may become cheaper, the growth of alternative energies will slow down http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=10635.... http://www.yankton.net/articles/2012/01/.... ---------- Pain is weakness leaving the body. Bulls need more pain NOW. Last modified: 2012-01-03 11:06:48 by grody 2012-01-03 11:02:57 Permalink
Crossthread Posts: 4554 Incept: 2007-09-04 Wilmington, NC	MSN says it's "Official" Geologists say Ohio quakes directly tied to fracking Process uses deep wells in rock to dispose of liquid wastes during natural gas drilling Recent earthquakes in Ohio and Oklahoma have been directly linked to deep wells used to dispose of liquid wastes for hydraulic fracturing or "fracking" of natural gas, according to geological experts. And they expect more earthquakes to come as the industry continues to expand across the eastern United States. A boom in gas production using hydraulic fracturing or "fracking" of natural gas has played a role in decreasing U.S. dependence on foreign oil and coal and helped cut energy prices, but evidence is mounting that the process may come at a price. "To the extent that our nation wants to become independent of meeting its energy needs in the coming years, the increased earthquakes are going to go along with that," said Art McGarr, a geophysicist with the U.S. Geological Survey in Menlo Park, Calif. "The problems are only going to grow in the future." State officials shut down all drilling around a brine-injection well after a magnitude-4.0 quake rumbled through the Youngstown, Ohio, on New Year's Eve day. That was the 11th earthquake in 2011 in the region, which is not considered seismically active. Experts are also investigating a magnitude-5.6 earthquake east of Oklahoma City that has been linked to gas drilling there, McGarr said. "It's reasonably clear that these Youngstown earthquakes are being caused by the disposal well activities," McGarr said. "The earthquakes started in March of last year. That's about the same period that the major injection activities started." read more @---> LINK http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45903873/ns/.... EDIT: I looked around for any abstract(s)/White paers of the McGarr feller, Only thing recent, (this year) was a workshop.. http://esd.lbl.gov/files/research/projec.... ---------- “Cognitive Co-Dependency” is when a normal rational person, internalizes irrational illogical presentations, and somehow reconciles them to fit their scripted indoctrination of logical analysis. Quote: Samuel L. Clemens:There is NO Native Criminal Class; EXCEPT for CONgress Last modified: 2012-01-07 10:45:34 by crossthread 2012-01-07 10:38:59 Permalink
Agau Posts: 4940 Incept: 2010-06-04	Cross These people are a bunch of commies that want to see us sending our boys to the middle east to die for oil Nowhere in this paper is there a discussion of inducing lesser seismic events to prevent large and damaging ones Instead they make a goal to determine how small ones will cause large quakes and this is utter nonsense 2012-01-07 11:13:56 From PDA Permalink
Bezzle Posts: 15043 Incept: 2009-08-02 Banned	Case point: There is no subject which is immune from a moonbat threadjack: Quote: These people are a bunch of commies that want to see us sending our boys to the middle east to die for oil How much oil is there in Afghanistan? Or Israel? Since when are the "commies" (the Left, one assumes you're alluding) down with "blood for oil"? Oh, nevermind. ---------- El Sock-Puppeto exposed and killed by Tickerguy 2012-01-07 16:52:57 Permalink
Drench Posts: 28631 Incept: 2009-11-10	http://www.theonion.com/articles/frackin.... 2012-01-11 07:00:29 Permalink
Rrman Posts: 6223 Incept: 2007-10-27 Baton Rouge, LA	The fracking is done with fresh water the brine comes from production they have this all messed up and they say the fracking is causing the earthquakes but then they say it is caused by the waste water wells... 2012-01-11 07:32:36 Permalink
Agau Posts: 4940 Incept: 2010-06-04	Bezzle, You are showing your neocon roots again (and no, we dont have troops in Israel so your point is without one). "How much oil is there in Afghanistan?" http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=.... 2012-01-11 13:35:07 Permalink
Krzelune Posts: 5513 Incept: 2007-10-08	Actually we do have troops in Israel. Quite a few of them at the moment. ---------- The desire of millions, the inconvenience of millions, the suffering of millions, the death of millions, does not concern them because of the evolutionary humanist lens they peer through. 2012-01-11 17:59:19 From PDA Permalink
Bezzle Posts: 15043 Incept: 2009-08-02 Banned	Quote: You are showing your neocon roots again... Yeah; I'm the "neocon" who gets bounced out of various forums for my anarchist screeds. Quote: "How much oil is there in Afghanistan?" I.e., none that anybody knew about when Osama was holing up there while waging war on the US. Thanks for playing; and Vanna has your lovely, parting boot-in-the-ass by the door. ---------- El Sock-Puppeto exposed and killed by Tickerguy 2012-01-11 19:20:52 Permalink
Agau Posts: 4940 Incept: 2010-06-04	Bez, Dont let the truth get in your way - full speed ahead and damn the deficit. 2012-01-12 08:01:04 Permalink
Bezzle Posts: 15043 Incept: 2009-08-02 Banned	Agau, Purple is spiky. ---------- El Sock-Puppeto exposed and killed by Tickerguy 2012-01-12 08:16:53 Permalink


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