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Dakine2004
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Bring it on...less traffic...
Jackl
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Last time majority of the nation solidly got over $4 local economies went in the ****ter. Macro mechanisms soon followed.

Only thing that has adjusted is the MSM. They managed to keep the increase slow this to prevent OMGWTF syndrome. Check the gas/electricity thread. Domestic demand is still horrible, and despite the mild winter prices still rise.
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The economy has become a lot more efficient (See: http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2010/08/most.... ) since oil hit its high in Summer of 2008 and the average gas mileage of all US vehicles has gone up (slightly). I don't see high gas prices having as big an impact as it did in 2008.


And how do you square that claim with the also reported fact that US vehicles on the road are an average 10 years old...10 years ago almost 50% of vehicle sales were light trucks probably averaging at best 14 MPG.

I highly, highly disagree with the notion that high gas prices are "priced in". We as a country are in much worse shape in 2012 than we were in 2008 - less savings, more people on disability-food-stamps-unemployed-medicaid, food and med. insurance up at least 20% for most, etc etc. There is no fallback position for a lot of people.

Get your gardens planted and your bikes tuned up, because impact will be a bitch.

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Genesis
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The "priced in" meme is total horse****.

It is not only not priced in it can't be, and if the Euro "recovers" then the dollar will go down, and oil will go up.

The result will a rolling recession that starts there (already in process) and comes here, and we will again be ****ed.

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I imagine as the price of fuel goes higher there will be new waves of layoffs coming. Any hurricane (and there haven't been any last couple of years) with the likes of Ivan or Katrina damaging refineries could put gasoline above $5 a gallon/$6 diesel across the country.
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Last time, the inflation creep came from trucking companies, distributors, and all manner of businesses that had to pass along fuel surcharges in other goods and services.
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Obama announces releases from strategic oil reserve in 3.2.1...we can’t have higher gas prices into my reelection! Who cares if we deplete our reserves going into an armed conflict in the middle east….my reelection takes precedent over everything!

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Eighty

I am sure Bush said the same thing in 2008 when he was trying to get the Republicans re-elected as president.

How'd that work out?

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Didn't Bush consider releasing oil from the SPR in 2008 and the Dems went nuts? I think I remember that......

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wikipedia has the complete history

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_P....

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Over $106 now...almost a dollar over the last few minutes. News??

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Something's up, as I noted in TICKs.

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