Oh boy.

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BREAKING: Two F16 Fighter jets tried to penetrate Syrian air space, one was said to be shot down, the other managed to evade and escape

It's about to get real.

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@syriancommando: CONFIRMED: TV anchor on their way to shot down aircraft, Turkish origin, shot in #Latakia

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2 #Turkish Airforce pilots are now in the custody of #syria|n army intelligence after their fighter plane was shot down in Syrian airspace

UPDATE :

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RT Noowaada: RT @Somaliasupport3: Report #Turkey #syria : Confirmed 3 Turkish Jets Violated Syrian airspace ... Syrian army shot down 2 jets and 1 Jet escaped.. NATO wars

UPDATE 2 :

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Turkish source denies reports saying the pilots are in Syrian custody.

And now they say it was one F-4... not a F-16.


Hopefully we'll know the truth within a few hours...

- Is it a F-16?
- Is it 2?
- Is it a F-4?
- Was it shot down or did it crash?

Oh ****.

****... are these idiots TRYING to start another war???

Who did the shoot? Ground or air?

Ckaminski : I think ground since all Syrian fighters were grounded due to fears of more defections.

So me thinks Russian anti-air hardware was used...


And of course, official Turkish MSM saying it ``crashed``... wasn't shot down... and only one at that...

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Al-Mayadeen TV saying Syrian air defenses shot down Turkish plane, citing Turkish sources #Syria #Turkey

Source : Lebanon.

http://www.rt.com/news/turkey-contact-ai....

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Turkish warplane shot down in Syria, pilots captured, witness tells RT

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Turkish PM to make statement in 1 hour

Oh boy...

In case anyone has forgotten, Turkey = NATO. Wow.

Meanwhile...

@BreakingNews: Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov says Russia sees no need to explain its Syrian arms deliveries to the US - IFAX News via @Reuters - 7:54 AM central - 22 Jun 12 via breakingnews.com

http://twitter.com/BreakingNews/status/2....

As of now it's ONE Turkish F-4 lost at sea in Turkish waters near Syrian territory.

@Vit, that @syriancommando dude is posting some scary ****! https://twitter.com/?_twitter_noscript=1

Caveat lector. Potential psyops going on there.

This will either be the biggest deal in a long, long time. Or absolutely the largest nothingburger.



ETA:

Some observations by @Galrahn via Twitter:

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If the F-4 was shot down by Syria, expect to see a lot of dithering and hand wringing by the Turkish government, not retaliation.

FYI. Turkey has the largest Army in Europe, and the 2nd largest Navy. Turkey has the 2nd largest military in NATO, behind the US.

The old Turkey would shove a missile up Assad's ass. These guys will dither and let things boil awhile. Both ways are dangerous.

Wow if those pictures of a Turkish naval helicopter pulling 2 pilots out of the water are legit, social media is #winning

If a shootdown occurred, the US Navy saw it.

Sounds like nobody is actually sure if the pilots were rescued or captured at this point...

One of these days that nothingburger will have an anti-matter patty.

Holy ****! An F-4!!11

Breaking News@BreakingNews
Report: Hezbollah-affiliated Al-Manar TV says Turkish jet shot down by Syrian air defenses, quoting Syrian security sources - @Reuters

You beat me by hours, but I posted in the pinned syria thread, so I'll leave it.

http://tickerforum.org/akcs-www?post=182....

I want to know what air defense the Syrians have going. Did the Russians sell them Tor M1s or are they using S300 or something like that? A big unknown in the Iran conflict is how well the latest Russian SAMs will work against NATO planes.

wondering if this was just a guinea pig to identify the radar locking and tracking characteristics before the start the no fly zone so countermeasures are more effective

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Senior adviser to the Turkish president tells @AlArabiya that reports on Syria apology over missing jet 'baseless'

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3 Russian warship file paperwork to transit into Med next week maybe on their way to #Syria

BREAKING...

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TURKEY SAYS ITS WARPLANE WAS SHOT BY SYRIA.

**** about to hit the fan.... it's on all Turkish news channels... and the pilots are still missing.

Remember this...

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https://twitter.com/?_twitter_noscript=1

Turkish journalist with Today's Zaman (biggest newspaper in Turkey). Blogging on Mideast, Turkey, Israel, Syria, Iran, Southeast Asia, US foreign policy. Former LA Times correspondent.

Turkey's ruling party deputy says if the Turkish fighter jet was downed by Syria, it is clearly a "declaration of war."

So... it's gonna be a loooooong night.

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Turkish PM office: After we have complete info we will do whatever we need to do

Oh boy.

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PM office : We will take necessary actions

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Turkey will unveil its position on downed fighter jet issue after appropriate investigation, security summit statement says.

Ok, so an F4 shot down and Mig 21 defects.

Aren't they both ancient throwaway items now? Good for false flag type of things?

Just sayin...

false flag for war...buh bye Damascus

The latest...

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Turkey can if they choose invoke NATO rights.

Erdogan is probably on the phone right now with NATO...

Now let's see what RUSSIA does...

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US informed officially by Turkey

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PM's office statement says Turkey will take all of the necessary measures 'decisively' once all the details of the incident emerge - @Reuters

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Syrian State TV: Syrian Airspace infiltration was dealt with according to international laws.

Brilliant. Poking at Turkish's pride is just a brilliant idea...

And...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-1....

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Turkish F-4 warplane 'shot down' near Syrian border

The private news channel, NTV, later cited unnamed military sources as saying that the plane had crashed off Hatay's Mediterranean coast, in Syrian territorial waters, but that there had been no border violation.

So... Syria shot down Turkish planes outside of Syria's airspace?? If this is the case, this is an attack on Turkey and they can call NATO...

**** gonna get serious, especially if Russian warships dock in Syria next week.

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Syrian military says it shot down Turkish fighter jet 'over Syrian territorial waters' - @Reuters

So basically it was an illegal shot down and you just admitted it?


What is ``weird``... is that Israeli warplanes ``always`` fly over Syria and Syria does nothing about it... but when Turkish warplanes just approach their border, they get shot down? Wut??


Uh oh..

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Turkish source said the plane was in Turkish territory when it was shot down.

Syria does have some of the Russian latest and greatest AD goodies.
IAF shut it down hard, when they took out the Syrian Reactor.
Turned it off like a light switch. Very much, loss of face for the Russians.

I guess, Maybe, Turkey does not have the magic key.(Humm)
That is interesting, all by itself.

Their f4s have been getting some pretty cool upgrades. By guess who.
And they can carry a lot of goodies.

Now, this is some interesting news.

bob

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PM's office statement says Turkey will take all of the necessary measures 'decisively' once all the details of the incident emerge - @Reuters

and

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Turkish PM office: After we have complete info we will do whatever we need to do

Al Jazeera in making reference to the above statements by the Turkish Government stated: 'If That Sounds Ominous, It's Because It Is'

Fox is running with it.