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Ben Posts: 6230 Incept: 2009-10-09 The Distant, Glorious, Past	Tossing this open. Possible outcomes? Which parts do you think will be struck? None or all? Will Obama then immediately begin Executive Orders, PPACA by decree? Though not in this incarnation, I am concerned that some day down the line expatriates will be forced to pay in, either contemporaneously or after repatriation, being hit with huge tax bills upon return, or a tax on any global income that will force people to move back to the USA. ---------- "Why are you going to learn French?" "Because I'm going to France," says Joe. "I'm from the future. You should go to China." 2012-06-28 07:25:31 Permalink
Dakine2004 Posts: 9232 Incept: 2007-10-23 MD.MI.NC.SD.	Expats..? Bills upon return...? I thought you were a permanent... U.S. much worse then China... Folks on TF seem to be experts on U.S. health system - the threads about seeing Drs. are epidemic...hope I never get sick - they've sucked the system dry... 2012-06-28 07:32:20 Permalink
Ben Posts: 6230 Incept: 2009-10-09 The Distant, Glorious, Past	The concern is down the line all global income will be under the PPACA Tax, making working outside of the USA economically nonviable, forcing a move back. Would be a good way to get money back into the USA. Anyway, let's keep this on thread and on topic. ---------- "Why are you going to learn French?" "Because I'm going to France," says Joe. "I'm from the future. You should go to China." 2012-06-28 07:48:55 Permalink
Dakine2004 Posts: 9232 Incept: 2007-10-23 MD.MI.NC.SD.	You brought up the personal concern!...back on topic... 2012-06-28 07:54:42 Permalink
Oldno7 Posts: 2141 Incept: 2008-11-14 RECALL STATE USA	Obamacare is truly a mess from the beginning. But being required to buy insurance is not a new concept. If you take out a mortgage to buy a house you must buy insurance and if you buy a car and use the roads you must have insurance (might be some exceptions). I think if you expect to use the health care system you either pay cash or have insurance. The point is that it is not unusual to be required to have insurance. As we all know health care is not free someone pays. ---------- IT'S THE SPENDING STUPID The US must become less a government of men, and more a government of LAW. When people lose everything and have nothing left to lose they lose it -Gerald Celente 2012-06-28 08:53:23 Permalink
Rubberchicken Posts: 1087 Incept: 2007-08-29	Quote: Obamacare is truly a mess from the beginning. But being required to buy insurance is not a new concept. If you take out a mortgage to buy a house you must buy insurance and if you buy a car and use the roads you must have insurance (might be some exceptions). I think if you expect to use the health care system you either pay cash or have insurance. The point is that it is not unusual to be required to have insurance. As we all know health care is not free someone pays. In those cases, not all people drive, not all people own houses so it is not neccesarily mandated that all people buy those types of insurance. ---------- "I need a new signature" 2012-06-28 09:07:25 Permalink
Banditfist Posts: 722 Incept: 2007-09-20 Huntsville, Alabama	Decision is expected to be handed down at 1015 EST. If you listened to wise latina or the dwarf during oral arguments, they were trying to show that everyone was going to use medical services and ALL medical services are provided by having medical insurance. Anyone without insurance affects the costs of those with. Thus, the general welfare clause would be applicable and the Feds can dicatate the individual mandate. ---------- "Are you sure you can't remember?" "I'm sure I can't remember" ~ Ben Bernake 25 Jun 2009 2012-06-28 09:27:56 Permalink
Ben Posts: 6230 Incept: 2009-10-09 The Distant, Glorious, Past	Quote: ALL medical services are provided by having medical insurance This is simply factually untrue. ---------- "Why are you going to learn French?" "Because I'm going to France," says Joe. "I'm from the future. You should go to China." 2012-06-28 09:35:28 Permalink
Soros Posts: 3119 Incept: 2007-08-31 La La Land	Quote: I think if you expect to use the health care system you either pay cash or have insurance And what if I expect not to use it, or just plain don't want it.. should I pay anyways? ---------- So long and thanks for all the fish. 2012-06-28 09:40:28 Permalink
Lowbeyond Posts: 16938 Incept: 2008-02-11 CO aka West NJ/East CA	10 minutes... ---------- Maybe it was a birdy bread-bomber from the future?! 2012-06-28 10:04:39 Permalink
Steph4liberty Posts: 1685 Incept: 2010-10-22 Raleigh, NC	Upheld by the SCOTUS ---------- "Man will never be free until the last Banker is strangled with the entrails of the last Politician" - unknown "This isn't a market anymore, it's a computer game." - Drench 2012-06-28 10:08:05 Permalink
Quillbill Posts: 1469 Incept: 2009-06-23 Northwest Illinois	7 minutes left of this presidency..... ---------- It is a new day....DO SOMETHING WITH IT! 2012-06-28 10:08:21 Permalink
Themortgagedude Posts: 8853 Incept: 2007-12-17 saint louis	Not so fast. ---------- I'm already visualizing you with duct tape over your mouth. 2012-06-28 10:08:42 Permalink
Dashingdwl Posts: 9764 Incept: 2007-06-26 los angeles	Struck Down. ---------- When you are hard and disciplined, you can be principled. People fear you because they have no leverage against you. It's the truest form of Liberty. 2012-06-28 10:09:36 Permalink
Themortgagedude Posts: 8853 Incept: 2007-12-17 saint louis	Now something else from SCOTUS blog the mandate survives as a tax. ---------- I'm already visualizing you with duct tape over your mouth. 2012-06-28 10:10:11 Permalink
Antone Posts: 7692 Incept: 2008-02-03 Seditionia, USSA	Mandate upheld? ** those cocksucking mother *ers. ---------- As if anything has changed: Wir sind gefickt. 2012-06-28 10:10:51 Permalink*
Jubber Posts: 14174 Incept: 2007-07-05 UK	is this good or bad in the UK don't understand the argument cheers ---------- �The problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other people�s money.� Thatcher 2012-06-28 10:11:23 Permalink
Lowbeyond Posts: 16938 Incept: 2008-02-11 CO aka West NJ/East CA	heh drudge is a copy paste of Scotus Blog lol ---------- Maybe it was a birdy bread-bomber from the future?! 2012-06-28 10:12:43 Permalink
Lowbeyond Posts: 16938 Incept: 2008-02-11 CO aka West NJ/East CA	Tom: The bottom line: the entire ACA is upheld, with the exception that the federal government's power to terminate states' Medicaid funds is narrowly read. ---------- Maybe it was a birdy bread-bomber from the future?! 2012-06-28 10:13:23 Permalink
1crzydmnd Posts: 2377 Incept: 2008-03-26 Bizarro World	Roberts can EABODADIAF. ---------- I'm not a racist. The black and white halves of Obama equally disgust me. 2012-06-28 10:14:09 Permalink
Argos Posts: 6338 Incept: 2008-03-23 The Green Mountain State	AET (Aetna) going spastic. 2012-06-28 10:14:52 Permalink
Steph4liberty Posts: 1685 Incept: 2010-10-22 Raleigh, NC	R.I.P. US Constitution Date of Death: June 28, 2012 ---------- "Man will never be free until the last Banker is strangled with the entrails of the last Politician" - unknown "This isn't a market anymore, it's a computer game." - Drench 2012-06-28 10:14:56 Permalink
Lowbeyond Posts: 16938 Incept: 2008-02-11 CO aka West NJ/East CA	Tom: Chief Justice Roberts' vote saved the ACA. ---------- Maybe it was a birdy bread-bomber from the future?! 2012-06-28 10:16:16 Permalink
Steph4liberty Posts: 1685 Incept: 2010-10-22 Raleigh, NC	I guess the only good thing that this decision brings is that we can now push forward with a federal mandate that all us citizens own and carry a firearm. ---------- "Man will never be free until the last Banker is strangled with the entrails of the last Politician" - unknown "This isn't a market anymore, it's a computer game." - Drench 2012-06-28 10:16:40 Permalink
Quillbill Posts: 1469 Incept: 2009-06-23 Northwest Illinois	Cool..... I am now MANDATED through a TAX to utilize the ER as my primary care doc for all eternity and forever and ever more. And I will rejoice in sharing my primary doc with the 800,000 amnesty immigrants our President just entitled to the same primary doc WITHOUT the tax. Oh happy joyeous day.... ---------- It is a new day....DO SOMETHING WITH IT! 2012-06-28 10:17:48 Permalink

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