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Avianphlu Posts: 3951 Incept: 2008-12-03 Ulster NY	http://barnhardt.biz/ NINETY MILES AN HOUR DOWN A DEAD END STREET POSTED BY ANN BARNHARDT - JULY 12, AD 2012 11:39 AM MST People are emailing asking what firm I recommend. NONE. GET OUT. GET OUT. GET OUT. GET OUT. GET OUT. GET OUT. GET OUT. GET OUT. GET OUT. The ENTIRE SYSTEM is totally, completely corrupt and therefore NO FIRM IS SAFE. Don't be stupid. Don't be obtuse. Snap yourself out of the Stockholm Syndrome that you are clearly stuck in. Get ALL MONEY out of the ENTIRE FINANCIAL SYSTEM, including stocks, bonds, retirement accounts, futures, EVERYTHING. But what about . . . What part of EVERYTHING are you not comprehending? One. More. Time. If you can't touch it, if it isn't physically on your property such that you can stand in front of it with an assault rifle and PHYSICALLY defend it, you don't own it, and it could be confiscated/stolen from you at any time, if it ever actually existed at all. 2012-07-12 17:20:52 Permalink
Jotapay Posts: 16727 Incept: 2008-08-26 Austin, Tx	She on the bath salts? I agree, but that sounds like a "sell the house, sell the farm, sell the kids" letter. 2012-07-12 17:24:03 Permalink
Avianphlu Posts: 3951 Incept: 2008-12-03 Ulster NY	tin today...fact tomorrow...which side of the bet do you want to be on? If you dont hold it you dont own it 2012-07-12 17:36:09 Permalink
Infidel Posts: 5463 Incept: 2007-08-27 between here and there	If anyone is going to be **ed it ain't going to be JP Morgan, chew on this, MFG did not "lose" the money into a black hole, JP Morgan took it when they realized the gig was up. They will take at will when the financial train starts to derail. "who the ** are you again" will be a popular refrain about that time. ---------- "DON'T BELIEVE THEM, DON'T FEAR THEM, DON'T ASK ANYTHING OF THEM." -ALEXANDER SOLZHENITSYN. 2012-07-12 18:01:54 Permalink
Antone Posts: 7663 Incept: 2008-02-03 Seditionia, USSA	Sell it all into what? Treasonous fiat pieces of paper issued by a criminal cabal whose value can be changed at will by the MoneyChangers? ---------- As if anything has changed: Wir sind gefickt. 2012-07-12 18:05:54 From PDA Permalink
Wearedoomed Posts: 3584 Incept: 2009-01-14 slightly red state Online	Tools of production. ---------- And you, my father, there on the sad height, Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray. Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light. 2012-07-12 18:08:01 From PDA Permalink
Goforbroke Posts: 5346 Incept: 2007-11-30 Just call me 'Comrade'	What I find interesting is an article to which she linked in a prior post ... http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-.... ---------- We have met the enemy and it is us. -- Pogo 2012-07-12 18:08:01 Permalink
Verreken Posts: 138 Incept: 2009-02-27	Take it out and put it where? Thieves break through and steal. You cannot sit on a pile and guard it 24/7, unless you have no life. The government will take any pile of cash and charge you with drug dealing, and you have to prove otherwise. The principle she advocates is perhaps sound, the implementation is not so easy and you still have to be able to function until it completely falls apart. 2012-07-12 18:14:31 Permalink
Lowbeyond Posts: 16895 Incept: 2008-02-11 CO aka West NJ/East CA	Well after MFG she told everyone to get out. Repeated herself as PNSN went swirling down the bowl And people still ask her what they should do after PFG. errrr ............. ---------- Maybe it was a birdy bread-bomber from the future?! 2012-07-12 18:15:37 Permalink
Dakine2004 Posts: 9231 Incept: 2007-10-23 MD.MI.NC.SD.	End... 2012-07-12 18:17:39 Permalink
2dogs Posts: 2941 Incept: 2009-03-25 Land of the Lost Online	@Goforbroke... Chicago connection, huh? Interesting. And she audits other securities brokers, as well. Gonna have hubby read this. He's in the field. I'll pick his brain and see what he knows. ---------- You can't defeat the combined effects of massive voter fraud, the Free ** Army, and the entire bought and paid for media complex. This nation is done.** 2012-07-12 18:34:13 Permalink
Downrange Posts: 5384 Incept: 2007-09-26 Just Say No to RomnobamaDingDong!	***, I'm goin' long now... ---------- "If this is how the state treats its law-abiding citizens, it doesn't deserve to have any" A. Solzhenitzen 2012-07-12 18:37:53 Permalink*
Djloche Posts: 3275 Incept: 2008-07-07 In the Mountains	Quote: Take it out and put it where? Thieves break through and steal. You cannot sit on a pile and guard it 24/7, unless you have no life. The government will take any pile of cash and charge you with drug dealing, and you have to prove otherwise. The principle she advocates is perhaps sound, the implementation is not so easy and you still have to be able to function until it completely falls apart. She doesn't say it's easy. Do you know what is easy? For firms like PFG to steal your "segregated" funds and for them to suddenly have the case of "poof it's gone". Someone can't magically disappear something that physically exists in your possession. They'd have to try and take it. ---------- "If we wish to be free, we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us! Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle?" 2012-07-12 19:02:35 Permalink
Mezcal Posts: 1832 Incept: 2007-08-04	gofor's link wrote.. Audit experts say that just because PFGBest hired a small auditor to do its books does not necessarily say anything about the auditor's competence. Instead, they said, it speaks more to the management of PFGBest and why the firm did not pick a larger auditor with a more established reputation. "Typically if you are in a business like this, you want to have people have confidence in your numbers and feel like you have got a big name behind them," said Lynn Turner, a former chief accountant for the SEC. Made me lol @ a 'big name' with a 'more established reputation.' Like, say, these guys, Ms. Turner? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Ande.... ***ing dumbass. ---------- "God knows who is a counter-party to whom in the mammoth international cluster**** of accounting fraud that passes for a commerce in capital."* Kunstler, 13 June 2011 2012-07-12 19:02:38 Permalink
Nanna Posts: 5662 Incept: 2008-01-20 NY State	Because I make a living in the capital markets, I have a propensity to physical assets. Some might call that diversification, I call it don't s*** where you eat. Others might call that extreme OCD, whatever. ---------- "There are fluctuations in the market that don't mean anything."Ira Gluskin, February 14, 2012 2012-07-12 20:28:34 Permalink
Eli Posts: 7199 Incept: 2007-09-10 Online	I wish people would lay off PFGBest's that guy was was a top accountant. My cousin in Chicago that ran a pet grooming business out of shed in her back yard used him and he did a great job for her. ---------- If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever. George Orwell 2012-07-12 22:18:42 Permalink
Jinxx0r Posts: 4230 Incept: 2007-08-10	I watched the movie "Rogue Trader" last night. It's about a guy who brought down the oldest bank in the world with bad futures trades. The stories about this seem to be similar. 2012-07-12 22:25:11 Permalink
Ishmael Posts: 4731 Incept: 2008-02-25 Los Angeles to Oklahoma, at least temporarily for now!	Being a CPA and the CFO for three Public companies, it is like waving a red flag to show where trouble is when you have one of these no name firms. Automatically sell and run away. I have consulted for 15 years and do a lot of subcontracting for an international accounting firm, but I never take on audits and especially for firms like PFG because there is too much personal liability. Big firms have poor enough quality, when I have looked at the work of small firms it is laughable. ---------- Hope is neither a good strategy or birth control methodology! 2012-07-12 22:29:49 Permalink
Cgbgjr Posts: 505 Incept: 2010-04-14 Porcupine Quillage	Ish--When you read an audit of a firm where you have in-depth information it is an eye-opening experience. Most audits these days are like broken clocks--right twice a day. ---------- You know you are in the Dark Ages when Alchemy looks like Destiny. 2012-07-13 07:05:40 Permalink
Jwm_in_sb Posts: 1041 Incept: 2009-04-16 California Desert	Yep...I said it in the the ticker thread. back in the day the phrase we used was "opinion shopping". 2012-07-13 08:03:25 From PDA Permalink
2dogs Posts: 2941 Incept: 2009-03-25 Land of the Lost Online	An audit can only be as good as the data/records provided to the auditor. If those are forged/fraudulent, the audit is garbage. ---------- You can't defeat the combined effects of massive voter fraud, the Free ** Army, and the entire bought and paid for media complex. This nation is done.** 2012-07-13 11:20:38 Permalink
Grashopa Posts: 2618 Incept: 2009-02-03	It is not difficult to spot forged records. I did that while reviewing Chinese companies while working for a Chinese IB when I'd only studied Chinese for 2 years. All you have to do is be willing to get on the phone and ask stupid questions. ---------- Theft is evil 2012-07-13 12:21:58 Permalink
2dogs Posts: 2941 Incept: 2009-03-25 Land of the Lost Online	Sometimes yes. Sometimes no. You'd be surprised how frequently it happens. Cash skimming is one of the biggest problems. Hard for an auditor to catch it when some of the cash transactions are conducted off the books. ---------- You can't defeat the combined effects of massive voter fraud, the Free ** Army, and the entire bought and paid for media complex. This nation is done.** 2012-07-13 12:45:59 Permalink
Genesis Posts: 130744 Incept: 2007-06-26	I caught cash skimming at MCSNet. It can be difficult to catch but if you've got a decent eye for what to look for the people doing it eventually make a mistake. Everything that comes in and goes out ties back to the journal and while some slippage due to inefficiencies or simply missed events is common it's very hard to commit a material amount of robbery and not eventually have it catch up with you, if the people doing the books give a ***. ---------- I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me* Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. *Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb.* *What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?* Last modified: 2012-07-13 12:51:25 by genesis 2012-07-13 12:49:15 Permalink
2dogs Posts: 2941 Incept: 2009-03-25 Land of the Lost Online	Doing the books? Yes. An outsider doing an occasional audit? MUCH harder to catch cash skimming. ---------- You can't defeat the combined effects of massive voter fraud, the Free ** Army, and the entire bought and paid for media complex. This nation is done.** 2012-07-13 13:16:44 Permalink

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