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CDC H1N1 Briefing for Wednesday May 6, 2009
Glen Nowak: Thank you and thank you all for your interest and attendance today, both on the
phone and in the room. The media briefing on H1N1 virus will be conducted by Dr. Richard
Besser.
Richard Besser: Thanks very much, Glenn. I want to thank you all for being here for today's
briefing. This remains a dynamic situation. Each day, we learn a lot more about transmission here
and around -- around the world. And I want to say that we remain concerned. I will be giving the
number shortly but we are seeing continued spread around the country. We are seeing increase in
numbers of cases and I want to make sure that people understand that changes in guidance that take
place are based on science, based on what we think are the appropriate measures to maximize
people's health. As we learn more, as the science develops and is refined, we are able to tailor
those measures more appropriately. Yesterday, we heard in the news at the CDC the death of a
woman in Texas. I want to send my sympathies to the woman's family. Any death is bad. This
reminds us that influenza can be a very serious infection and it's one that we need to continue to
take very seriously. Yesterday, we refined our guidance, we issued new guidance on school closure
and day care closure and I want to make sure people know that those guidances are up on the web.
This is a good example of how we use science to inform policy and so as we've learned more about
the severity of the virus, as we learn more about the severity of infection, as we learn more about
transmission, we are going to continue to refine our guidance and that's something that people
should expect. We have had some questions from the media about the length of time for school
closure and why we had 14 days before and why we are talking now about 7 for children. This
plays in, again, to the issue of uncertainty and severity. At a time when we still knew very little,
when the reports out of Mexico were of a much higher severity disease than we are currently
recognizing, the guidance was saying up to 14 days. The reason for that is one incubation period is
about 7 days and so if you're dealing with something that's quite severe, you may see some
variability on shedding. You go for safety zone. And there we recommended two incubation
periods. As we now see this infection, it is not as severe as we had initially feared, we can cut back
on that. And realize that, yes, after 7 days there maybe some children still shedding but they will
be shedding less virus and appropriate action after 7 days they can may return to school. Let me
give the case number updates. As of 11 a.m. today, we are reporting 1487 probable and confirmed
cases in 44 states. That's an increase of around 400 from yesterday there are around 850 probable
cases and 642 confirmed cases. The confirmed cases are in 41 states, increase of three states with
confirmed cases from yesterday. In terms of the age range the median age for cases is 16 years with
a range of 3 months to 81 years. 58% of the cases in the U.S. are under 18 years of age. We have
reported a total of two deaths and we have 35 hospitalizations, which are confirmed. Plus 17
hospitalizations that are -- that are probable. The median age of -- for hospitalized patients is 15
years. That's for confirmed hospital case and that's about the same as for cases, in general. The age
range for hospitalization is 8 months to 53 years. We have reported hospitalization confirmed cases
from 14 states. Looking at underlying disease for the 13 individuals for whom we have that detailed
information, seven of them had known conditions that would put them at risk for more severe
infection. The world health organization is reporting 1500 cases, roughly 1500 cases in 22
countries, with Canada, Spain and the united Kingdom having the highest counts outside of the
U.S. and Mexico. Mexico had been reporting 822 confirmed cases and 29 deaths. We have been
talking about what does the epidemic look like in Mexico? We have quite a number of people in
Mexico, I will talk about that in a moment. But I think that we need to put in context the idea of is
it going away in Mexico? What we hear about in Mexico is what we are seeing and will continue
to see here is when you see a large outbreak or an epidemic, it's frequently made up of a series of
smaller outbreaks and epidemics, so, what they are seeing in Mexico is parts of the country where
they are seeing increases in disease and parts of the country where they are seeing decreases. When
you add that all up together it may show some leveling off but it doesn't really give a sense of how
dynamic the situation is. Here in the United States, each day we are reporting new states that are
seeing disease. And so, we will start to see in those states increases and at some point, we will be
starting to see in states decreases. The rapid increases in confirmed cases that I had predicted for
today that were reporting is largely due to the ability of more and more states to do testing and so
some of the backlog on testing is going to lead to catch up and we are going to continue to see
those numbers increase. In addition, we are going to see additional people get sick. I don't want to
attribute it all to testing, but in terms of our ability to confirm cases, we are seeing more of that
around the country. We are continuing to see virus spread in the United States and around the
globe. The majority of the confirmed cases in this country are in younger people. And it's
important that people have respect for this virus, because it does cause severe disease,
hospitalization and death. We don't know yet about issues of population immunity. What we are
seeing, as we talked about in previous days, we are not seeing as much disease in the elderly. This
could be due to some underlying protection or it could be due to just the dynamic of it starting with
the younger population before it traveled to the elderly. Everything we've seen to date leaves us
with the understand that we need to remain vigilant. We cannot let up on this it's important that
people understand that there's shared responsibility, that people need to continue to wash their
hands, cover their coughs and most importantly, when they are sick, not send their children to
school, not go to work when they are sick. Those measures can help reduce the spread in
communities and keep people protected. An update on some of the public health actions, the
stockpile of -- all states have received their 25% allotment. We are in the process of replenishing
some of our stockpiles through purchases. CDC has been actively engaged, over 900 CDC
employees are responding to this outbreak that does not include our individuals around the globe
who work in laboratory, working with other countries on their surveillance. We have 93 people in
the field, including 16 in Mexico, and we have 33 more who are pending deployment. The PCR
test kit has been deployed around the country, so all states and Puerto Rico, we have shipped it as
well to 16 countries, so this will help with the diagnostic capabilities around the world. And as I
said this will also increase the number of cases through testing alone. We continue to work to
understand the virus and the illness that it is causing. It's very important that we understand
transmission in various population. We are working with Texas and California and we will be
tending to investigation team there is to look in particular at the issue of health care worker
transmission. We want to see what are the dynamics of transmission, are there certain practices
putting people at risk and if so, what can be done to tailor the guidance that we currently are
providing in that area? I want to put a little focus today on the issue of pregnancy and disease risk.
So far, we are aware of six confirmed and five probable cases of H1N1 infection involving
pregnant women. This is not a higher rate than would be expected in the general population.
However, pregnancy is a risk factor, a known risk factor for known disease. We want to make sure
that clinicians have information on how they should approach the issue of infection in pregnancy
and that women who are pregnant have this information as well. So, on our website, we have for
pregnant women, fact sheets on what pregnant women should know and guidance for clinicians, if
they have a patient who is pregnant, they will understand how anti-virals should be used what, the
treatment strategy should be in that circumstance. So, in closing, I want to remind you, we do
expect to see more school outbreaks. We do expect to see more clusters around the country. We do
expect to see more transmission and we do expect to see disease in all states. We it continue --
continue to be working actively in the area of vaccine development and that is a critical part of
strategies moving forward. Seasonal vaccine is in production. We are moving forward on the
development process for novel H1N1 vaccine. We are taking those initial steps that are very
important and necessary should a vaccine need to be made. There are a lot of decisions that would
need to be made between now and people receiving a vaccination and the decisions will be based
on the best available science. Lastly, I want to just address the issue of who and levels and as we
have discussed before, who levels have to do with the number of factors. One is there sustained
transmission of a novel virus? We have met that. For us to move or for W.H.O. to move from a
level five or level six, they will look to see is there sustain vaned transmission of this virus in more
than one W.H.O. region? They have not confirmed that they just have the same transmission in this
world health organization region. With the number of cases in other countries, I would be surprised
if we don't get to a level six. But we are not there yet and W.H.O. has not made that move. One of
the hallmarks of any virus is they undergo constant change, we are actively looking at the virus in
the laboratory. As the flu season starts in the southern hemisphere, what takes place there is going
to be incredibly important, how does the virus compete with other viruses that are circulating in the
community, does it change, does it mutate? If so, in what way? Does it develop resistance?Those
are factors, studies that will be ongoing as we move through that period. When continue here at
CDC to give you the information we when know it continue to tell you what we don't know and
provide the daily updates as long as necessary for that, let me turn to your questions. Starting here
in the room.
Betsy McKay: Thanks, Dr. Besser. I'm from the Wall Street Journal. I have two questions, one
about vaccine and one about hospitalization. On the vaccine question is would -- if the virus
change, mutates and becomes more virulent, sort of a 1918 pattern, are we able to know right now
that a vaccine that you're developing would be protected against the more virulent form? The
second about hospitalizations. I'm wondering how a normal a pattern the age group that is
hospitalized, how normal that really is for, you know, compared with seasonal flu vaccine, the
median age is 16 seems really young.
Richard Besser: Right. The first question, in terms of, you know -- if the virus changes over this
period of time, will the vaccine work? That's great question. Each year with seasonal flu, the virus
changes and at the time decisions are made as to what strain goes in the vaccine, you don't know
what will be here the following season. And so there's a process to pick that each year for seasonal
flu. And it involves experts from around the world making their best science-informed decision.
But at some point, there will need to be a decision if you're going to go forward, which strain you
use. And you don't -- you won't know for sure until you know what's circulating in the following
season. But what we're seeing so far during the short period of time is a fair amount of stability in
the virus, but what happens in the fall is not known. In terms of the age distribution, you're right.
We are seeing the same distribution in hospitalized parents as we are in milder cases in the
community. And that's younger than what you would see in seasonal flu. In seasonal flu, you tend
to see a predominance of burden to the elderly and the very young. And here, we are seeing it more
in younger population. And so, that is something we are keeping our eye on, that is something that
raises concerns and it plays into the question of why is that happening? Is it because that's the
population that got sick first? The population that may have traveled to Mexico on spring break or
is it something else regarding a protection, elderly potentially protected for some reason? Those
are things that we are continuing to look at, but that is a great question. Another question here in
the room?
Ceci Connolly: Doctor, Ceci Connolly from the Washington Post. You mentioned Mexico. I'm
wondering if you can elaborate a little bit more in terms of exactly your teams are doing there, now
that we are two weeks or so into this. Are you starting to gather more useful information and you
mentioned epiteams going to California and Texas to look at health care workers. Can you
elaborate on that? Do you have a particular concern at this point?
Richard Besser: Let me start with Mexico. I'm looking for the numbers, how many people I said
down in Mexico. Thank you. Yeah. 16 from Mexico and we are -- we are going to be sending
additional people there. There are two -- a number of things we are doing. One is just working on
trying to describe the basic epidemiology. That's been so incredible useful over the past five days
in helping us understand the issue of severity. When initial reports out of Mexico were of very
high rates of hospitalization and death, that was suggesting a very severe virus, a virus that could
have devastating consequences. As we've learned more, we've seen that this is a virus that appears
to be widespread in the community and that the issue of hospitalization and death was the tip of the
iceberg phenomenon. So, that has been very useful, getting laboratory set up is something that
Canada, the U.S. and Mexico work on together and that has been very helpful in sorting -- sorting
that out to. Looking at spread around the country, Mexican government is putting teams in various
states to be able to describe in more detail the epidemiology on the state basis. That is something
that we do here and it is very useful, because your decisions on what you're going to implement are
most appropriately taken at that state and local level.Different areas will be seeing different things
and experiencing the outbreak in a different way. So that's part of the assistance. But some of the
new work that's going to be going on there is in the area of health care worker transmission and
transmission to contact the cases. This will be very useful in understanding prevention strategies.
You know, when you're thinking about risk, who comes in contact with the most individuals who
are sick and have flu? Health care workers, people come in when they are sick. And we want to
make sure that our guidance is as evidence-based as possible. And if there are opportunities to
prevent infections in that setting, we want to know what those are and what works.

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guidance up on the web now, but as I've said, as we gain more information, we will be able to tailor
those interim guidance so that they are most effective. So, that's the kind of work that's going to go
on in Texas and California and that's what the teams are assisting the Mexican government with as
well. Take a question from the phone, please?
Operator: The first from Ann Pistone at ABC. Your line is open.
Ann Pistone: Thank you very much. Doctor, from the experience of the CDC and the public
health community has garnered the last few weeks dealing with H1N1, what is the most important
changes or enhancements that need to be made to biofence, better prepare for more severe or
intentional outbreak?
Richard Besser: Thanks. Biofence is an electronic surveillance system that took place in many
places to look at various syndromes, so we can look and see how many people are coming in with
flu-like symptoms, see how many people are coming in with a number of different conditions and
it's one of the systems that we are currently using to look at visits to hospitals. It's a useful piece of
surveillance information. And so, you know, we will -- we will, as we go forward, look to see what
pieces of surveillance information were most useful and provided good insight in terms of what
was taking place on the ground and what wasn't. I think it is premature for me to comment on any
of the particulars, because we haven't done -- we haven't done the look become to say, okay, which
pieces of information were critical, critically important to decisionmaking at what point? How can
we make sure that we've got a detail understanding of what's going on in various places? Next
question from the phone?
Operator: The next is from Robert Lowes, Medscape Medical News. Your line is open.
Robert Lowes: Dr. Besser, the people at W.H.O. have announced they will be looking a at
possibility of one starting wholesale or mass production on the H1N1 vaccine as well as possibly
halting production of seasonal flu vaccine. That is predicated on how much has been produced of
the seasonal flu vaccine. What is your reaction to that? Is it a prudent step? Consider halting
seasonal flu vaccine production?
Richard Besser: I missed the first part. Where did you say that was taking place?
Robert Lowes: The officials at W.H.O. announced today they would be convening experts to
consider wholesale production of a new implemented virus as well as halting production of
seasonal flu vaccine.
Richard Besser: Thanks. The world health organization has an expert committee they convene to
address global issues around pandemic flu. That's the body that helps inform them whether it's time
to move phases of a pandemic. And that's body that will help inform them as well in terms of the
global position on vaccination. And the U.S. government has participation on that committee. I
think we have three members on that committee. And so I will be very interested to see what their
discussions say and where they come down on vaccine production. Here in the United States, we
are pushing forward with production of seasonal flu vaccine and that's moving forward very
aggressively. We are also undertaking those steps in the development of an H1N1 vaccine that are
necessary to do now, so that's providing the virus strength, growing that up as a stock and once
that's grown up, providing that to manufacturers so they could do initial study it is they were to
move forward with the vaccine. And so you know, world health organization has a responsibility
for developing recommendations for the world and we would definitely welcome and we will be
participating in those discussions. Let me take the next question here in the room.
Mike Stobbe: Thanks, from the AP. Two questions, following about hospitalizations and the age,
is age appearing to be as great or greater a risk for hospitalization than underlying conditions? And
second --
Richard Besser: I wouldn't put too much data on the hospitalization. In terms of condition, that
was based on 13 people, there is -- that kind of information, dealing with very small numbers is
subject to great change. And given the number of people hospitalized is very small, you run the
risk of overinterpretation, the range there is three months from 81 -- eight months to 53 years, so it
is a very wide range. You talk about it as a median, middle number of 15 it may signal a little more
than you want to interpret there. But looking at hospitalizations and risk by age is really, really
important. I mean, as this progresses, I fully expect we are going to see more hospitalized
individuals and we are going to continue to look at that factor.
Mike Stobbe: Second question, on underlying conditions, understanding the point you just made
about the small number of cases, can you tell us what underlying conditions are recurring in those, I
guess, 13, and there's a lot of attention on the death yesterday. Was the pregnancy in that case be an
underlying condition or did she have something else that you believe exacerbated the death?
Richard Besser: I don't have any additional information on the woman from Texas. The other
patients, it was a wide range. There wasn't something that was popping up as predominant, but
there were only seven people with a chronic condition. As we gathered more information on that
what we will be looking to see is there a risk factor that is putting people at greater risk? Is it
something that we can alert people to that would have protective value? But right now we don't
have that information. Thankfully, the number of hospitalized individuals is small. In the room?
Michelle Marsh: Michelle Marsh from CBS Atlanta News. I have two questions. One is how soon
do you project a vaccine will be available? And second, various health officials are discussing the
possibility of asking people to get three vaccinations by this fall, one for the regular flu and two
installments for the H1N1 virus. I just want to get your response to that and whether these a
possibility.
Richard Besser: Well, when the vaccine would be available, you know, is difficult to say. That
is -- [ inaudible ] making sure that that's going to be available for manufacturers, engaging the
discussions with the industry so they understand the virus and understand what studies they are
going to need to be undertaking. In terms of a number of doses to put it in perspective, before a
vaccine is administered to anybody there is a series of studies that need to be taken under the
direction of the NIH and approved by the Food and Drug Administration. They what they are
looking at is they need to do studies to determine how much stuff needs to be in the vaccine, how
much of an antigen needs to be in the vaccine to stimulate protection and immunity. Then they also
need to see, do you get sufficient immunity from one dose? Do you need more than one dose?
And with each vaccine, it's different. With different age groups, it's different. And so, it is really
early to say how many vaccines someone's going to need till those studies are done. But that's
going to be very important information because it will -- the number of doses you need will impact
on how many people you will be able to vaccinate. And, you know, hopefully, we will be able to
find a vaccine that worked very readily with one dose. Back to the phone?
Operator: Elizabeth Weise with USA Today, your line is open.
Elizabeth Weise: Hi, thanks for taking my call. I actually a question about the number of cases in
Illinois, which has jumped and is now the highest in the nation. I know part of that's testing artifact,
because they just got their kits over the weekend, but do your folks there have any sense of why
Illinois has even more cases than New York at this point?
Richard Besser: No I would have to refer you to the folks in Illinois to understand the testing
dynamic. Mayor Bloomberg was here visiting CDC a little while ago and his comment when he
was meeting with the media was you want 200 more cases? We will test 200 more people. And so,
you may see in different places different approaches and strategies to testing. And so I don't know
the specifics on Illinois, but I'd refer to you them on that. But differences you will see by state are
have to do with viruses and transmission. Some are going to do have to be much more where they
are in ramping up their laboratory testing capability and what they report out. Another from the
phone?
Operator: The next question is from Suzanna Hoholik with the Columbus Dispatch, your line is
open.
Suzanne Hoholik: I know you keep talking about these test kits and the Ohio authority said they
have not received theirs even though a couple of days ago, it was supposed to be on their way.
How many are coming and when will they be here?
Richard Besser: Well, I will follow up after this press conference and see what the situation is
there the test kits have come out. Some of the states have not been able to fully use them yet
because the first five runs need to be validated with our laboratory. And so, we will follow up and
see what's going on with Ohio, but I appreciate that information. Next question from the phone?
Operator: The next is from Delthia Rick of Newsday. Your line is open.
Delthia Ricks: Thank you, Dr. Besser. I would like to know rather than a pandemic strain, could
this possibly be a newly emergent H1N1 that may compete with or replace the current H1N1 in
circulation?
Richard Besser: I think I missed the beginning, whether this H1N1 could replace the current
H1N1?
Delthia Ricks: Pandemic strain that is newly emergent but ultimately replace the H1N1 in is
circulation? In other words, we may not really be looking a at pandemic strain?
Richard Besser: What we need to look at is what happens in the southern hemisphere, and that is
going to be very important. How does the H1N1 compete with other H1N1s and other strains in
circulation in the difference between this strain and other H1N1 is that this is a novel strain. That
originally -- has many components, has a swine component, it has an avian component, it has a
human component and it is a strain to which we feel the population does not have immunity. The
other H1N1 that's been circulating is one to which many people probably have some baseline
immunity, given that if they were vaccinated last year or they have been exposed to this before. So
it's kind of a confusing point. There are different H1N1s. This one here -- this novel strain is one
we feel more people would be at risk for and that's why it's different than the one in circulation.
Whether it replace it is or not, it will be hard to say but that is what we want to look at coming up.
Back to the room.
Michelle Marsh: Just a follow-up to the question that I had before. There's been a lot of concern
that by the fall season, this may look like the calm before the storm. Can you speak to that as to
what is being done to make sure that when the fall season comes around, things are not -- we are
not overwhelmed with even more cases than we are seeing now?
Richard Besser: Thanks. You know, I wish I could predict what we are going to see in the fall
because that would make it very easy to make the kinds of decisions we are going to need to make
as a nation over the next few months. And we could see a number of things happen. We could see
the current strain fizzle out and never come back again. We could see the current strain come back
as it currently is or see it mutate and change and come back in a more severe form. What we need
to do during this period is really a shared responsibility and that is make sure that we are prepared
and that is making sure that we are prepared as a government and as a public health agency and that
our laboratories are ready and our epidemiologists are ready and we are ready, should this come
back much more -- as a much more severe infection. We need our communities to be ready so that
they would know, what would they do if this came back and was really severe and we needed to
take measures like closing schools? How would they ensure that children who got school lunch got
that at home? We are not going to see problems in terms of nutrition. How do we ensure that
parents who want to do the right thing and stay home with their child when they are sick can do that
and not lose their jobs? That kind of preparedness efforts over this period of time will really help
minimize or reduce the impact, should this come back more severe and will also leave us prepared
for any other type of emergency that could come to our community.Okay. Last question from the
phone and then we will take the last one in the room.
Operator: The next is from David Brown, Washington Post. Your line is open.
David Brown: Yes, thank you. Dr. Besser, does CDC or HHS have any preproduction contracts,
standing orders, so to speak, with vaccine manufacturers to buy a pandemic strain vaccine? And
I'm not talking about H5N1 which is already bought, but standing orders now? And if it does, how
many doses do you have on a standing order and with what companies?
Richard Besser: David, I'm going to have to refer you on that question. Bruce Gellin in the
department is the head of the national vaccine program office. And that's the -- that's the office that
really coordinates a lot of these efforts and I don't know the answer to that question, but he would
be able to address that. Last question in the room?
Mike Stobbe: Thanks. Doctor, just following up on your comment about preparation for the fall.
When mayor Bloomberg was here this morning, we asked if he was -- had any special preparations
under way for the fall. He said no. What should local communities be doing? Should the health
departments be hiring or certain staff be trained in giving vaccinations? What do you they
communities should be doing specifically?
Richard Besser: I think just to clarify the mayor's comments, New York has done intensive
pandemic plans and so, in terms of doing something special based on this, I think they are doing
what everyone's doing, and that is looking at their plans, making sure that they are making the
changes to those plans based on this strain and what's circulating and what needs to take place. At
the federal government, we are doing that. We are constantly looking to see what have we learned
so far what changes do we need to make? As we go forward to the fall, what pieces of information
are going to be critical to some of the decisions that need to be made? What do we need to be sure
that we are ready? I mean, one of the things that we have done that I already mentioned is already
worked to replace some of the stocks of anti-viral and Tamiflu distributed so we will be building
those stockpiles back up, so should they be needed, we have them ready. Thank y'all very much.
Appreciate it.

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An update on some of the public health actions, the
stockpile of -- all states have received their 25% allotment.


Sooooo...what happens to the other 75%?


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