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Tickerguy
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Let's cut the **** all of 'ya.

You can buy for $40 a reusable, excellent piece of PPE that will provide orders of magnitude more protection against a virus -- any virus -- than a "mask".

You can see an example of it right here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B086DM....

Unlike a "mask" you can also remove the canisters and easily clean it thoroughly between uses without destroying its effectiveness.

Home Depot and Lowes sell similar respirators in their paint departments, should you not want to buy one online.

I own one. Not that specific one, but something similar. Why? Because I sometimes do work around the house that is high-hazard (e.g. grinding things that might release silicates, which can give you lung cancer and kill you very dead.) The cartridges I have for it are not rated for organic hazards but they're *at least* as good as an N95, and the seal is vastly superior. It's not enough around serious chemical hazards (e.g. inhalation hazard for epoxy activators, acids in vapor phase and similar) but for sub-micron aerosols and larger while not 100% proof against anything getting through it's pretty darn good.

Have I ever, even once worn that out in public since Covid19 started? No. Why not? Because I have no particular excess risk, I know the odds, and I accept them without demanding someone else protect me from what I can protect myself against.

Here's the lie put forward: You never know if the guy next to you has some underlying condition and you might accidentally kill him.

True and 100% irrelevant.

Why?

Because he knows if he has such a condition and by going out in public without an appropriate level of PPE for himself he has decided to accept that risk. Ditto for anyone else in said person's household. The risk varies with time; in the winter it is higher than the summer most years, since the flu circulates worse in the winter. This last winter H1N1 was going around -- the same bug that killed so many in 1918 and 1919. I either had Covid or that one in early January and it kicked my ass. Had I been materially compromised it might well have killed me. Do I know where I got it? Nope. But I did, and I very rarely get anything serious enough to put me on my ass.

This one did and left a lingering hack for close to a month. It didn't send me to the doc but was within a day of doing that.

If you're scared, buy and wear your own PPE when out of the house, and have everyone you live with do so as well. That might protect you and it might not, but short of living in an isolation bubble it's a hell of a lot better than any so-called "mask mandate", and it's both your ass and your choice. Have at it.

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Mannfm11
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You know, if 4 or 5 of us drove up to a Costco or Sams in a late model black sedan and got out and put on one of those, I suspect it would create some real alarm. It would serve them all right

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Krzelune
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And they are now only 29.99. You'd think they wouldn't be able to keep them on the shelves if the danger were real.
Themortgagedude
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So let me expand on this a little Bottlewasher. You say the person with the condition should have stayed home. I'm not sure how to prove this but I'm guessing that these masks that they have people wearing have given people a sense of safety that isn't justified. Thus people who should be more careful are just strapping on a mask and going to the store. Thus it's rather safe to presume that the masks are killing people.

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Tickerguy
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Yep.

Indirectly, but yes.

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Djloche
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and in both directions TMD -- both people who should be more cautious think they are safe, and people who are ill are less cautious.

they have completely destroyed masks as a social signal for everyone else to stay FAR FAR away from the person wearing a mask or other gear



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