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Tickerguy
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Cut the crap on so-called "Testing."

FIRST, the purpose of any medical test is to provide the potential victim of a disease or disorder actionable information of a scientific type so they, in concert with their physician, can make informed decisions.

Covid-19, if you get it, like all viruses has two phases: The phase of viral replication and the phase of your body's attempt to repair and mitigate the harm done by that viral replication once it has completed.

The useful treatments for the first are often radically different than for the second. It serves exactly zero purpose and provides no value to take a treatment for viral replication once it's complete. ALL medications have risks; there are no exceptions.

In addition for any communicable disease there is no value to public health in a test that does not return results until after you are either not contagious any longer or you are so sick that you'd never be voluntarily around anyone else anyway.

In the context of Covid-19 there is NO VALUE to a test that cannot return results to you on the same day. Not only does such a test provide you no value it provides no value to anyone else either, including those attempting to slow or stop the spread of disease such as so-called "contact tracers" because by the time results come back, if they are delayed by more than a couple of days, you are almost-certainly no longer contagious at all or you are so sick you're not going to be out and about.

In other words the disease will have either resolved (you're not contagious) or you're ****ed (you're contagious and in the hospital because you got hammered.) In either case the test is WORTHLESS to both you AND to anyone attempting to "contact trace"; if you were contagious and gave the bug to someone else they have already reached the contagious stage themselves and passed it on to a tertiary person or persons before your positive result comes back!

The REEEEEEing and "test test test" screamers have clowned themselves. So has the President. There is no point in any of the testing that is now going on; it tells us nothing of value.

Hospitalizations and of course deaths provide valuable data, but at this point you can no longer point to the alleged "testing" data and actually get anything out of it. Worse, these days trying to compute a CFR-10 (e.g. deaths 10 days after identification of a positive) are valueless too on a percentage basis since there's no way to accurately know how long the delay is from being tested and getting results back.

Finally, the CDC and state record-keepers clowned themselves months ago on what is and is not a "Covid" death, leading to the insanity we've seen repeated examples of where someone gets into a motorcycle wreck, dies, and is counted as "Covid19" because they tested positive. Only a death where Covid-19 is in the causal chain on the death certificate is legitimately chargeable against the virus.

Shut it all down; this is nothing more than a colossal waste of money and time at this point plus a political polemic used to justify acts by the government that should have long ago led to an immediate shooting revolution while providing exactly zero valuable information to either the victims or alleged public health officials.

Instead check all ILI hospital admissions for elevated D-dimer and, if found, presume Covid-19 and treat for a severe case (e.g. the Marik protocol.)

We're blowing billions of dollars and getting absolutely nothing for it other than tyranny.

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Frat
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The only point I will argue (loosely) is that "There is no point in any of the testing that is now going on; it tells us nothing of value."

It is absolutely useful to the asshat tyrants and their media lackeys to keep the Karen Fear Level at an all-time high. I think they're starting to lose that battle as well, though. While the worst of the worst shriekers are still going at it full-force, I am noticing quite a few "middle of the road" types who are either no longer engaging in conversation about it, or it's so half-hearted that the result is the same. They're starting to understand that they're either going to be able to work, or are going to have to stay home full time to teach their crotch fruit. That is not very palatable when they actually, you know, like to earn and spend money on things.

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Goforbroke
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Ohio will not be getting results from antibody testing until the end of August.

38:20 - 42:00

https://www.facebook.com/brian.blackburn....

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Zappafan
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I just took a test. 6-10 days to get the result. To your point, kind of worthless because by then I will either be really sick and past the point of prophylactic treatment, or whatever I have will be long gone.

I think there is some value in a general sense in reporting how prevalent the virus is in the population, but with such a long delay it makes the daily or even weekly reports kind of useless.

Edit - this is not a technology issue, as the NBA, MLB and NFL players are getting tested like crazy and somehow they're able to get those results back in 24 hours. Else it would be impossible to play games.

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@Zappafan - Well no, because knowing how prevalent the virus WAS at a point in the past tells you nothing. Worse, if there's skew in the return time of more than half a viral general time you can't even use it for statistical purposes!

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Elkad
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VA gave me results in 2 hours.

I tested the day before my procedure, but they offered me a test slot a mere 5 hours before it on the same day, so they aren't expecting any backlogs to pop up.
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ALL of the patients in our local clinics tested negative for COVID antibodies.
ALL of them.

Then we had one of our patients who currently resides in a rehab center notified he was exposed to COVID by a Physical Therapist last Thursday....the patient tested positive Friday, negative Saturday, negative Monday and positive Tuesday. 2 different labs in total, 2 different results.

You cannot make this **** up.

False positives or false negatives?

And the Physical Therapist and the patient were both wearing masks.

This **** is beyond ****ing stupid.

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Tickerguy
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Why people aren't shooting them by now is beyond me. I'm frankly surprised we aren't seeing house fires caused by cut-up children stuffed in ovens set to CLEAN.

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Changed my response, this isn't the bar, and my response isn't for general public consumption.

smiley

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